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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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PDH

Quote from: Jacob on January 10, 2021, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Maladict on January 10, 2021, 09:25:17 AM
I wonder what would have happened if the mob had succesfully occupied the Capitol, cleared it of police presence and dug themselves in?
What would they have gotten their hands on, as far as sensitive information? And would the response have been to storm the building as soon as possible, or protracted negotiations?

If they'd cleared it of police presence, they'd probably have some members of the House or Senate as hostages.

Well, what else could they have done.  I mean, like the Retired Air Force Colonel there, some of them discovered that they had those zip cuffs in their pockets, totally by accident. 
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Razgovory

And for news in the "Doesn't fucking matter anymore" column we found why that Attorney in Georgia resigned.

Quote(CNN)White House officials pressured a top Georgia federal prosecutor to resign ahead of the state's high stakes Senate runoff elections because President Donald Trump was upset he wasn't pursuing Trump's baseless allegations of widespread election fraud strongly enough, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, reported Saturday that a senior Justice Department official called Trump-appointed US Attorney Byung J. Pak at the White House's request. The official told Pak he needed to resign because he wasn't investigating the allegations to Trump's liking, the Journal reported.
The day before Georgians headed to the polls, Pak abruptly submitted his resignation, citing "unforeseen circumstances" as his reason for departure in an email to his colleagues.

The revelation marks yet another effort by Trump to attempt to pressure a Georgia government employee to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the state. CNN reported earlier Saturday that the President in December urged the chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state's office to "find the fraud" in the 2020 presidential election, telling the individual that they would be a "national hero," according to a source with knowledge of the call.
As CNN has previously reported, there have been no credible allegations of any issues with voting that would have impacted the election, as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.
Barry Paschale, the public affairs officer of the Southern District of Georgia, confirmed to CNN Saturday that Bobby Christine had been named acting US attorney for the Northern District of Georgia.

According to the Journal, Christine, a Trump appointee, assumed those duties in addition to his role in the Southern District, instead of the No. 2 in Pak's office taking over in an acting capacity, as is typically the case.
Paschale declined to comment to CNN aside from confirming Christine's appointment.
Congress formally certified Biden's win earlier this week following a riot of the US Capitol. Following the violent attack on the capitol, Trump said in a video that "a new administration will be inaugurated on January 20."
But in a phone call in early December, first reported by the Post, Trump had tried convincing Georgia Republican Gov. Brian Kemp to get state legislators to overturn Biden's win in the state.
And in a January 2 phone call obtained by CNN and first reported by The Washington Post, Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" votes to overturn the election results.
In excerpts from that stunning one-hour phone call, Trump lambasted his fellow Republican for refusing to falsely say that he won the election in Georgia and repeatedly touted baseless claims of election fraud.
Raffensperger rejected Trump's claims replying in part, "We believe that we do have an accurate election."
A week before, Trump had phoned the Peach State's chief election investigator pushing the individual to "find the fraud."

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Tamas


Tamas

Thanks to one or two of you commenting on stuff on Facebook I had a look into some "discussion" on FB about the dead police officer vs. the dead rioter lady.

It was an exact copy of the BLM violence discussions except the stance of the Trumpists were now the stance of Democrats during the BLM protests and vice versa.

You Americans are fucked. Good luck avoiding Civil War 2.0.

Solmyr

Were there any dead cops from the BLM protests?

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on January 10, 2021, 12:39:28 PM
Thanks to one or two of you commenting on stuff on Facebook I had a look into some "discussion" on FB about the dead police officer vs. the dead rioter lady.

It was an exact copy of the BLM violence discussions except the stance of the Trumpists were now the stance of Democrats during the BLM protests and vice versa.

You Americans are fucked. Good luck avoiding Civil War 2.0.

I don't think you meant this as it came out.
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Tamas

Quote from: garbon on January 10, 2021, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 10, 2021, 12:39:28 PM
Thanks to one or two of you commenting on stuff on Facebook I had a look into some "discussion" on FB about the dead police officer vs. the dead rioter lady.

It was an exact copy of the BLM violence discussions except the stance of the Trumpists were now the stance of Democrats during the BLM protests and vice versa.

You Americans are fucked. Good luck avoiding Civil War 2.0.

I don't think you meant this as it came out.

Obviously there's next to nothing to really compare between the BLM protests and this coup attempt (other than the level of forcefulness and preparedness of the police) but the discussion I saw just felt so... bad.

99.5% that was because the vile "patriots" going "yeah sure the officer died but what about them rampaging black people?!" But also I'd bet some of the non-fascists people there were far less teary-eyed about the glory of the police forces back during the summer.

Hopefully the vile far-right people are a minority, but even then they hold the GOP hostage and half the country rather votes for whatever branded Republican than Democrat, damn the consequences.
I don't think there's an easy way out of that. Some catastrophe has to happen because nothing else will make enough people give up on the GOP to make them lose their influence.

Sophie Scholl

The way the police and other forces were utilized, geared, and staffed were incredibly different let alone the messages and purposes of the people opposed to the police. So comparing the two really isn't indicative of much in my opinion.
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Quote from: Maladict on January 10, 2021, 09:25:17 AM
I wonder what would have happened if the mob had succesfully occupied the Capitol, cleared it of police presence and dug themselves in?
What would they have gotten their hands on, as far as sensitive information? And would the response have been to storm the building as soon as possible, or protracted negotiations?

A lot more than they shoukd I guess. I'm curious to know how many high ranked people have their password on a postit.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Tyr on January 10, 2021, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: Maladict on January 10, 2021, 09:25:17 AM
I wonder what would have happened if the mob had succesfully occupied the Capitol, cleared it of police presence and dug themselves in?
What would they have gotten their hands on, as far as sensitive information? And would the response have been to storm the building as soon as possible, or protracted negotiations?

A lot more than they shoukd I guess. I'm curious to know how many high ranked people have their password on a postit.

Just as long as one keeps it hidden on the bottom of the keyboard.  :whistle:

katmai

Quote from: Solmyr on January 10, 2021, 12:52:31 PM
Were there any dead cops from the BLM protests?
one/s killed by far right boogaloo jackasses iirc
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FunkMonk

Trump will award the Medal of Freedom to Bill Belichick this week.

IMPEACH HIS ASS NOW
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Valmy

If he had done that a few months ago he would have swept the New England states. Day late, dollar short Mr. President.
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alfred russel

Seems reasonable. You want to give a medal to an NFL coach, half of them are in the playoffs, and it seems your play time as president is about to run out. If you have to give a medal to one of the coaches that failed to get into the playoffs, you could do worse than Bill Belichick.
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