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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Trump probably won't go down for this but the NY DA still has a shot of Caponing him on bank/tax fraud charges.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Larch on January 07, 2021, 07:44:13 PM
Trump is back on Twitter and just published a video there all indignant about the Capitol attack, calling for healing and reconciliation and promising an orderly transfer of power on the 20th now that the electoral college results have been certified.
When he does the hostage video reading out a statement that's been prepared for him it's normally about 24 hours before he calls a press conference or gives an other statement where he walks that back.
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 07, 2021, 11:06:21 PM
Trump probably won't go down for this but the NY DA still has a shot of Caponing him on bank/tax fraud charges.

He will flee the country before they can get him. That is why he was trying to get to Scotland.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

So that police officer did die.  The pro-fa protesters did something in one day what the BLM protesters didn't do for months, not that you'd be able to tell from the police response.

Syt

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: DGuller on January 08, 2021, 01:35:04 AM
So that police officer did die.  The pro-fa protesters did something in one day what the BLM protesters didn't do for months, not that you'd be able to tell from the police response.

50 officers injured, 15 hospitalized.

Blue lives matter except in the 20003.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Threviel

The problem with viciously charging and imprisoning the bad guys after the election is that the bad guys can do the same when they inevitably win next time. Trump has shown how easy the system can be manipulated and if a competent leader wins that manipulation can be done with a plan.

Even though it feels wrong I think the best way is to take a leaf from Deng's and Mandelas textbook. Don't go after your enemies after victory, and make damn sure that all shenanigans are publicly exposed through some truth commission. Neutralize them by their own deeds and not by locking them up.

Then something needs to be done about the media and social media to stop this insanity. I have no clue as to what can be done, it's very difficult to destroy these self re-inforcing echo chambers. If nothing is done it's just a matter of time before an equally insane leftist Qanon and then... Well.. Fuck...

Syt

You know it's bad when it leads to a fight between Xena and Hercules. :(

(Yes, I know Kevin Sorbo has been ... peculiar these last few years)

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Brain

Quote from: Threviel on January 08, 2021, 02:42:11 AM
The problem with viciously charging and imprisoning the bad guys after the election is that the bad guys can do the same when they inevitably win next time. Trump has shown how easy the system can be manipulated and if a competent leader wins that manipulation can be done with a plan.

Even though it feels wrong I think the best way is to take a leaf from Deng's and Mandelas textbook. Don't go after your enemies after victory, and make damn sure that all shenanigans are publicly exposed through some truth commission. Neutralize them by their own deeds and not by locking them up.

Then something needs to be done about the media and social media to stop this insanity. I have no clue as to what can be done, it's very difficult to destroy these self re-inforcing echo chambers. If nothing is done it's just a matter of time before an equally insane leftist Qanon and then... Well.. Fuck...

It wasn't an election, it was a coup.
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The Brain

Quote from: The Larch on January 07, 2021, 07:22:28 PM
QuoteSimon & Schuster cancels Josh Hawley's book, citing Capitol riots

Hawley later called the move "Orwellian" and a "direct assault on the First Amendment."

LOL A butthurt incel. Charming.
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Tamas

Orban's take on the ransacking: "The Left also attempted violence in Hungary, so we are familiar with the situation" ^_^

Eddie Teach

Quote from: The Brain on January 08, 2021, 03:34:37 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 07, 2021, 07:22:28 PM
QuoteSimon & Schuster cancels Josh Hawley's book, citing Capitol riots

Hawley later called the move "Orwellian" and a "direct assault on the First Amendment."

LOL A butthurt incel. Charming.

He's married and has three kids. Clearly took the blue pill.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Brain

Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 08, 2021, 04:33:07 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 08, 2021, 03:34:37 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 07, 2021, 07:22:28 PM
QuoteSimon & Schuster cancels Josh Hawley's book, citing Capitol riots

Hawley later called the move "Orwellian" and a "direct assault on the First Amendment."

LOL A butthurt incel. Charming.

He's married and has three kids. Clearly took the blue pill.

If he's not an incel then why does he act like one? He actually wants to look like an incel?
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The Brain

What has been the foreign response to the coup? Putin? China? Boris Johnson? Anything noteworthy there?
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Brain on January 08, 2021, 04:59:33 AM
What has been the foreign response to the coup? Putin? China? Boris Johnson? Anything noteworthy there?
Johnson:
QuoteBoris Johnson
@BorisJohnson
Jan 6
Disgraceful scenes in U.S. Congress. The United States stands for democracy around the world and it is now vital that there should be a peaceful and orderly transfer of power.

He also condemned it "unreservedly" at the press conference yesterday. And Dominic Raab:
QuoteDominic Raab
@DominicRaab
Jan 6
The US rightly takes great pride in its democracy, and there can be no justification for these violent attempts to frustrate the lawful and proper transition of power.
QuoteDominic Raab
@DominicRaab
22h
After the shocking events yesterday, it was good to see the resumption of US Congress and the certification of President Elect Biden's victory. (1/2)
It sends an important message that the democratic will of the US people cannot be challenged or overturned by the actions of a violent minority. The UK condemns yesterday's violence unequivocally. (2/2)

I've seen the Chinese press doing comparisons between yesterday v Hong Kong protests (a la Mono) and Russia is taking exactly the approach you'd expect:
QuoteMFA Russia
@mfa_russia
Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria #Zakharova:
Events in #Washington are the internal affair of the United States. At the same time, we are highlighting the fact that the #US electoral system is archaic and does not meet modern democratic standards. https://is.gd/vGCIP9
Let's bomb Russia!