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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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alfred russel

What if Hillary was right after all and Trump supporters really are a basket of deplorables?  :hmm:
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The Brain

Quote from: alfred russel on January 07, 2021, 05:37:16 PM
What if Hillary was right after all and Trump supporters really are a basket of deplorables?  :hmm:

They cling to guns and shamanistic religion.
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PJL

Quote from: alfred russel on January 07, 2021, 05:37:16 PM
What if Hillary was right after all and Trump supporters really are a basket of deplorables?  :hmm:

Do you seriously believe that, or are you making a point?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2021, 05:30:28 PM
A fascist mob organized by neo-nazis via big tech company products, trying to reverse a democratic election and end democracy.

:lol:

And wearing lots of fleece!

alfred russel

Quote from: PJL on January 07, 2021, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 07, 2021, 05:37:16 PM
What if Hillary was right after all and Trump supporters really are a basket of deplorables?  :hmm:

Do you seriously believe that, or are you making a point?

On this account, I believe that. On another, who knows? Hell, on one of my accounts I might have even been taking selfies with Gerald Ford's statue in the rotunda yesterday. :P
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

That was a statue? Makes sense, I thought he seemed suspiciously conscious...
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Grey Fox

Quote from: alfred russel on January 07, 2021, 05:37:16 PM
What if Hillary was right after all and Trump supporters really are a basket of deplorables?  :hmm:

She was right.
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The Larch

QuoteSimon & Schuster cancels Josh Hawley's book, citing Capitol riots
The publishing house said it "cannot support Senator Hawley after his role in what became a dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom."

Publishing house Simon & Schuster is canceling Sen. Josh Hawley's forthcoming book because of the violent riots on Capitol Hill, the company announced on Thursday, prompting the Missouri Republican to threaten legal action.

"As a publisher it will always be our mission to amplify a variety of voices and viewpoints: at the same time we take seriously our larger public responsibility as citizens, and cannot support Senator Hawley after his role in what became a dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom," the publishing house said in a statement on Thursday.

Hawley later called the move "Orwellian" and a "direct assault on the First Amendment."


"Simon & Schuster is canceling my contract because I was representing my constituents, leading a debate on the Senate floor on voter integrity, which they have now decided to redefine as sedition," he said in a statement posted on Twitter. "This is the Left looking to cancel everyone they don't approve of. I will fight this cancel culture with everything I have. We will see you in court."

Hawley was one of the first Republican senators to voice his intention to contest the results of the Electoral College vote in Congress, leading to deliberations in both the House and Senate deep into the early hours of Thursday. His efforts were swiftly condemned by both Democrats and some members of his own party for amplifying President Donald Trump's provocations that led to the Capitol Hill break-in.

Hawley's book, "The Tyranny of Big Tech," was slated to tackle the rise of major tech companies and argue that they "represent the gravest threat to American liberty since the monopolies of the Gilded Age," according to Simon & Schuster's website. It was set to be published June 22.

Razgovory

Congress is pissed.  The backlash here is worse than the impeachment.  I think Trump just found out what actually will turn his people against him.  All it it took was two senate seats, 360,000 American lives and launching a fucking coupe.
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The Larch

Heads will start rolling soon, it seems.

QuoteTop Dems sack Capitol security officials after deadly riot
Schumer and Pelosi vowed to move swiftly after a pro-Trump mob stormed the Hill

Three top security officials in Congress were poised to lose their jobs over the embarrassing and deadly security breach of the Capitol by President Donald Trump's supporters.

Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund will resign effective Jan. 16, before Joe Biden's Inauguration, according to a police spokesperson. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said he will fire Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Mike Stenger when Democrats take the majority later this month. And Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving will be resigning after the Capitol was overrun Wednesday by a pro-Trump mob that even some Republicans are calling "domestic terrorists."

Their departures came as the death of a Capitol police officer was announced Thursday night. The officer is the fifth person to die in relation to the riots.


Pelosi had called for Sund's resignation earlier Thursday and said she has been unable to reach him; a spokeswoman for Sund said earlier he has no plans to step down.

Thus far, Stenger has not been relieved of his post serving under Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) But Schumer said he will act in 13 days.

"If Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Stenger hasn't vacated the position by then, I will fire him as soon as Democrats have a majority in the Senate," Schumer said in a statement to POLITICO.

Admiral Yi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SUyoPoTLlY

Reports Mnuchin and Pompeo discussed the 25th and decided it would piss off the boogaloos even more.

The Larch

Trump is back on Twitter and just published a video there all indignant about the Capitol attack, calling for healing and reconciliation and promising an orderly transfer of power on the 20th now that the electoral college results have been certified.

QuoteDonald Trump promises 'orderly' transfer of power in video statement denouncing violent mob he incited

More than 24 hours after he incited a violent mob to attack the US Capitol in support of his unconstitutional efforts to overturn the presidential election, Donald Trump finally conceded that "a new administration will be inaugurated on January 20" and promised a "smooth, orderly and seamless" transfer of power.

The video statement was posted on Twitter, one of the only social media platforms to which the president still has access following his unprecedented and egregious encouragement of rioters bent on insurrection.

Trump began the video with his first straightforward denunciation of the sacking of the US Capitol building, saying: "I would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders."

Multiple news outlets have reported that it was Mike Pence, not Trump, who deployed the National Guard, while Trump resisted the measure.

He continued:

"America is and must always be a nation of law and order. The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay. We have just been through an intense election and emotions are high, but now tempers must be cooled and calm we start. [sic] We must get on with the business of America.

My campaign vigorously pursued every legal avenue to contest the election results. My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote. In so doing now is fighting to defend American democracy. I continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and to ensure faith and confidence in all future elections.

Now, Congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power."

Trump concluded his brief remarks by calling for "healing and reconciliation." He also included a final message for his supporters, saying, "I know you are disappointed, but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning."

The Larch

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2021, 07:38:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SUyoPoTLlY

Reports Mnuchin and Pompeo discussed the 25th and decided it would piss off the boogaloos even more.

Apparently Pence doesn't support it either.

QuoteVice President Mike Pence is opposed to a call by Democrats in Congress and some Republicans to invoke the 25th Amendment to strip President Trump of his powers, a person close to the vice president said.

The Larch

QuoteJustice Department warns of national security fallout from Capitol Hill insurrection
Lawmakers are demanding a "full accounting" of what was taken as rioters ransacked congressional offices.

The mob that rampaged inside the halls of Congress on Wednesday might have taken a lot more than Americans' illusions of invulnerability.

"National security equities" may have been among the records stolen from the Capitol on Wednesday when pro-Trump insurgents stormed the building and looted several congressional offices, the Justice Department said in a briefing Thursday.

Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., said it will likely take "several days to flesh out exactly what happened, what was stolen, what wasn't," noting that "items, electronic items were stolen from senators' offices, documents and materials were stolen, and we have to identify what was done to mitigate that [damage]."


Lawmakers and congressional staffers are demanding answers about how a federal complex in the nation's capital with its own police force was overrun in broad daylight, leading to four deaths and dozens of injuries.

But it's not only the physical security of members, staff and other employees that was endangered by the breach—congressional offices were ransacked, and at least one laptop, belonging to Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), was stolen, Merkley said. Rioters were photographed sitting at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk and removing a piece of her mail from the building. And the Senate Parliamentarian's office was raided, leaving piles of documents scattered across the floor and into the hallway.

"We have to do a full review of what was taken, or copied, or even left behind in terms of bugs and listening devices, etc.," said Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.), raising the possibility that foreign adversaries could have easily infiltrated the crowd that encircled the Capitol.

The House Chief Administrative Office said in a memo to staff on Thursday evening that "at this time, there have been no indications that the House network was compromised," noting that the office issued commands on Wednesday to lock computers and laptops and shut down wired network access amid the protests. Classified national security information, moreover, is supposed to be secured in Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilities in the capitol, which were not breached during the attack, congressional aides said.

But questions remain about whether the attackers were able to remove any physical documents containing personal identifying information, legislative strategy or sensitive logistical details.

A juicy extract from later in the article:

QuoteOne current Metro D.C. police officer said in a public Facebook post that off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the building. "If these people can storm the Capitol building with no regard to punishment, you have to wonder how much they abuse their powers when they put on their uniforms," the officer wrote.

FunkMonk

Twitter suspends Donald's account for 12 hours and he immediately concedes :hmm:
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