What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[The Minsky Moment]

It's a lot more than senile rants.

Yes.

He's sucking all the oxygen out of the room, focusing all the attention to where he wants. He wants to make AOC, etc, the face of the Democratic party going into re-election. He did this again and again against his Republican rivals in 2015.

Right, just like in the midterms he made the election all about the bogeyman Nancy Pelosi the San Francisco liberal, and scared moderate midwestern voters into resoundingly returning a solid Republican majority in the House.

Oh wait. That's not what happened.  What happened was that strategy completely backfired.

AOC and her posse were doing a great job on their own of making less than desirable headlines and prompting party infighting.  Trump did succeed into taking the oxygen out of that damaging internal Democratic Party squabble and focusing the intention on his strident nativism.  That's the same nativism that plays well with his 40% base that won his party 197 of the 435 House seats that were up last election.

[Duque de Bragança]

Btw, let me see if I understand's Trump's opinion correctly:

If you're in the USA and don't like it, instead of trying to fix it you should leave. Unless you are a white christian heterosexual male.
If you're in not-USA and don't like it, you should try to fix it instead of leaving.

You forgot cisgender.

[Malthus]

It's a lot more than senile rants.

Yes.

He's sucking all the oxygen out of the room, focusing all the attention to where he wants. He wants to make AOC, etc, the face of the Democratic party going into re-election. He did this again and again against his Republican rivals in 2015.

Right, just like in the midterms he made the election all about the bogeyman Nancy Pelosi the San Francisco liberal, and scared moderate midwestern voters into resoundingly returning a solid Republican majority in the House.

Oh wait. That's not what happened.  What happened was that strategy completely backfired.

AOC and her posse were doing a great job on their own of making less than desirable headlines and prompting party infighting.  Trump did succeed into taking the oxygen out of that damaging internal Democratic Party squabble and focusing the intention on his strident nativism.  That's the same nativism that plays well with his 40% base that won his party 197 of the 435 House seats that were up last election.

Heh I was just thinking 'last week we were all arguing about the Democrats' petty infighting and whether this would turn the voters off - now, everyone is focused again on what an ass Trump is'.

I do worry that the Democrats have not exhausted their ability to self-destruct yet ... 

[Valmy]

By the way I am getting propaganda telling me AOC is responsible for the caravan about to invade our country. Is that damn caravan from last November still not here yet? Damn thing moves slow as shit.

[frunk]

By the way I am getting propaganda telling me AOC is responsible for the caravan about to invade our country. Is that damn caravan from last November still not here yet? Damn thing moves slow as shit.

The last one completely destroyed the country.  We just haven't noticed.

[Habbaku]

By the way I am getting propaganda telling me AOC is responsible for the caravan about to invade our country. Is that damn caravan from last November still not here yet? Damn thing moves slow as shit.

What do you expect from a bunch of lazy rapists? /gag

[dps]

Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...

It may have actually been more sexist than racist.  I have a feeling what he was really trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen.

[frunk]

It may have actually been more sexist than racist.  I have a feeling what he was really trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen.

I'm not saying he's not sexist, but he really gets fired up when race is involved.  See how he handled that Hispanic judge from a few years back.  Or the Muslim gold star family.  Or immigrants.  Or Obama.  I think a mild and inoffensive black man as president set off Trump in a way that never would have happened with Hillary.

[Syt]

Kellyanne "Zombie" Conway, being asked, "If Trump didn't tell those women to go to their supposed countries of origin, to which countries was he referring?"
Conway: "What's your ethnicity?"

Full exchange here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1151165148217917441

[garbon]

Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...

It may have actually been more sexist than racist.  I have a feeling what he was really trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen.

What does gender have to do with go back to your countries?

[crazy canuck]

Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...

It may have actually been more sexist than racist.  I have a feeling what he was really trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen.

Nope he told them to go back to where they came from.  subtext - this country is for the white folk

[garbon]

Interesting that Kellyanne isn't hiding from it being about race:

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/Defending-Trump-White-House-Adviser-Kellyanne-Conway-Asks-a-Reporter-Whats-Your-Ethnicity-512794821.html

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway on Tuesday responded to questions about President Donald Trump's attacks on four congresswomen of color by asking a reporter about his heritage, NBC News reported.

Andrew Feinberg, a White House reporter for Breakfast Media, a website about politics and technology, asked Conway, "If the president was not telling these four congresswomen to return to their supposed countries of origin, to which countries was he referring?"

Conway paused and then asked him, "What's your ethnicity?"

"Why is that relevant?" Feinberg replied.

"Because I'm asking a question. My ancestors are from Ireland and Italy," Conway shot back.

[garbon]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453383-house-votes-against-striking-pelosi-remarks-from-record

The House voted against striking Speaker Nancy Pelosi's floor remarks blasting President Trump from the record on Tuesday after the House parliamentarian in a rare rebuke for the Speaker said her comments violated House rules.

The vote on the motion to strike Pelosi's failed in a 190-232 vote with no Democratic support. Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.

The parliamentarian ruled the speech violated rules forbidding personal attacks on the House floor against the president.

Pelosi was offering comments about a resolution set to condemn as racist Trump comments earlier in the week that four minority congresswomen should go back to their home countries. All four are U.S. citizens and three of them were born in the U.S.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) announced the parliamentarian's decision against Pelosi, stating that by calling the remarks by Trump racist, she had violated the House's rules.

"The chair is prepared to rule, the words of the gentlewoman from California contain an accusation of racist behavior on the part of the president as memorialized in chapter 29 section 65.6, characterization characterizing an action as racist is not in order," House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md,) said on the floor ahead of the vote.

"The chair relies on the precedent of May 15, 1984 and finds that the words should not be used in debate."

Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she did not regret her remarks.

"I stand by my statement, I'm proud of the attention that's being called to it because what the president said was completely inappropriate against our colleagues, but not just against them, against so many people in our country when he said 'go back where you came from," Pelosi told reporters ahead of the vote.

[garbon]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/jul/16/trump-news-today-live-racist-attack-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-resolution-republicans-latest

The House is now voting on whether Nancy Pelosi is allowed to speak the rest of the day.

Because her words were ruled out of order, the normal punishment is the member can't speak again.

[Malthus]

Interesting that Kellyanne isn't hiding from it being about race:

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/Defending-Trump-White-House-Adviser-Kellyanne-Conway-Asks-a-Reporter-Whats-Your-Ethnicity-512794821.html

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway on Tuesday responded to questions about President Donald Trump's attacks on four congresswomen of color by asking a reporter about his heritage, NBC News reported.

Andrew Feinberg, a White House reporter for Breakfast Media, a website about politics and technology, asked Conway, "If the president was not telling these four congresswomen to return to their supposed countries of origin, to which countries was he referring?"

Conway paused and then asked him, "What's your ethnicity?"

"Why is that relevant?" Feinberg replied.

"Because I'm asking a question. My ancestors are from Ireland and Italy," Conway shot back.

So he should go back to Ireland and/or Italy? 

The Native Americans like where this logic is going ...