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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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DGuller

Quote from: Oexmelin on July 15, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
It's a lot more than senile rants.
It is and it isn't.  I think a lot of Trump's success is the accidental genius of his senility.  It turns out that there was more than a critical amount of pent up demand for open racism, xenophobia, sexism, and so on, but he came upon the winning formula by accident rather than careful calculation.  The way polite society works is by pressuring even closet bigots to condemn bigotry or enabling of it, but that breaks down when everyone recognizes that they've got plenty of company in their closet, and they don't actually have to hide their bigotry.

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Tamas

It's funny how all leading British political figures felt compelled to denounce Trump, as if they have anything to do with American politics.

Will be nice to see a hard Brexit Britain become a US satellite I guess. As long as Hungary remains in the EU, I shall have access to both worlds.  :showoff:

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2019, 12:45:00 AM
It's funny how all leading British political figures felt compelled to denounce Trump, as if they have anything to do with American politics.

Will be nice to see a hard Brexit Britain become a US satellite I guess. As long as Hungary remains in the EU, I shall have access to both worlds.  :showoff:

Well they were just looking like punks with that ambassador interlude.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 15, 2019, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 15, 2019, 07:42:21 PM
It's less than 48 hours since AOC and Pelosi were having it out so naturally Trump just poured gasoline on the whole thing, forcing Pelosi to come to the their defence and keeping them even more in the spotlight.  :hmm:

You're imputing a logic to his actions that doesn't exist.

Trump is just the senile old racist guy in the bar ranting about the "coloreds" and the foreign talking people.  Except all of America is now the bar and there is no way to just walk away and ignore the old fool.

I think it's more his narcissism that was the catalyst of this. The press was talking about them and not him, and that's intolerable to him, so he had to interject himself into the fight.
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Tamas

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2019, 02:04:16 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 15, 2019, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 15, 2019, 07:42:21 PM
It's less than 48 hours since AOC and Pelosi were having it out so naturally Trump just poured gasoline on the whole thing, forcing Pelosi to come to the their defence and keeping them even more in the spotlight.  :hmm:

You're imputing a logic to his actions that doesn't exist.

Trump is just the senile old racist guy in the bar ranting about the "coloreds" and the foreign talking people.  Except all of America is now the bar and there is no way to just walk away and ignore the old fool.

I think it's more his narcissism that was the catalyst of this. The press was talking about them and not him, and that's intolerable to him, so he had to interject himself into the fight.

I think you are on to something.


In general, Trump is no fucking political genius. His natural style just happens to match well with the zeitgeist. If he ran 10-15 years ago, he would not had survived to the end of the primaries, let alone the presidency.

Legbiter

Quote from: Oexmelin on July 15, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
It's a lot more than senile rants.

Yes.

He's sucking all the oxygen out of the room, focusing all the attention to where he wants. He wants to make AOC, etc, the face of the Democratic party going into re-election. He did this again and again against his Republican rivals in 2015.
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Tamas

It's incredible how after 4 years this myth of "political genius Trump" still exists. The human mind's capacity to discover patterns where none exist is quite something.

Valmy

Quote from: dps on July 16, 2019, 12:28:39 AM

Hell, I'm conservative enough that I don't even like the idea of a President being on Twitter in the first place.

I am with you. I almost make it a point of principle to be ignorant of his tweets.
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Legbiter

Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
It's incredible how after 4 years this myth of "political genius Trump" still exists. The human mind's capacity to discover patterns where none exist is quite something.

Well he did do a hostile takeover of the entire Republican party and then went on to win the presidency having never held any elected office before just by shitposting on Twitter. If that makes him a dumdum what does that say about his opposition?

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Eddie Teach

It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.
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Valmy

Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2019, 07:58:47 AM
It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.

Yes. Yes it would.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Legbiter on July 16, 2019, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
It's incredible how after 4 years this myth of "political genius Trump" still exists. The human mind's capacity to discover patterns where none exist is quite something.

Well he did do a hostile takeover of the entire Republican party and then went on to win the presidency having never held any elected office before just by shitposting on Twitter. If that makes him a dumdum what does that say about his opposition?



In politics sometimes you just have to be the right person at the right moment.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2019, 08:03:26 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 16, 2019, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
It's incredible how after 4 years this myth of "political genius Trump" still exists. The human mind's capacity to discover patterns where none exist is quite something.

Well he did do a hostile takeover of the entire Republican party and then went on to win the presidency having never held any elected office before just by shitposting on Twitter. If that makes him a dumdum what does that say about his opposition?



In politics sometimes you just have to be the right person at the right moment.

Exactly.