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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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garbon

Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2019, 07:58:47 AM
It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.

Yes. Yes it would.

Yes, we do need to starve him of attention. But then who knows what crazy shit he'd get up to...:(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Malthus

Quote from: DGuller on July 16, 2019, 12:35:59 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on July 15, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
It's a lot more than senile rants.
It is and it isn't.  I think a lot of Trump's success is the accidental genius of his senility.  It turns out that there was more than a critical amount of pent up demand for open racism, xenophobia, sexism, and so on, but he came upon the winning formula by accident rather than careful calculation.  The way polite society works is by pressuring even closet bigots to condemn bigotry or enabling of it, but that breaks down when everyone recognizes that they've got plenty of company in their closet, and they don't actually have to hide their bigotry.

I would tend to agree with this. Trump created a winning formula, based on simply unashamedly indulging his personal leanings.

Indeed, shamelessness is what defines him.

The environment? Never better! Racism? You are the racist, not me. I just support what is good in America. Sexism? Women love to be grabbed by me.

Facts are what I want them to be.

Lots of people like this message. They don't want to hear about why they ought to be ashamed of themselves, they interpret every critique as a call to shame, and so a man who touts shamelessness is attractive to them.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2019, 07:58:47 AM
It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.

Yes. Yes it would.

Yes, we do need to starve him of attention. But then who knows what crazy shit he'd get up to...:(

Not sure it can get much worse when the point is reached that facts mean nothing for a large number of American voters.   

garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2019, 10:32:27 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2019, 07:58:47 AM
It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.

Yes. Yes it would.

Yes, we do need to starve him of attention. But then who knows what crazy shit he'd get up to...:(

Not sure it can get much worse when the point is reached that facts mean nothing for a large number of American voters.   

I mean that he might do something even more disastrous to draw attention if we all averted our eyes.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...:(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...:(
:lol:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Grey Fox

On the Pyramid of Hate, the American federal government has reach the penultimate stage, 1 away, from Genocide.

Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

garbon

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-racist-in-the-white-house-donald-trump-tweets-ocasio-cortez-tlaib-omar-pressley

QuoteThe present moment is never fixed, or not for long. History is in the hands of members of Congress who have the option to collude or impeach, go along or resist; it is in the hands of citizens who can vote or stay at home. In 1989, we lived the illusion of unstoppable democratic advance. Democratic values have since receded. In 2008, we enjoyed the illusion of racial progress. Today, Donald Trump is in the White House.

"The slave went free; stood a brief moment in the sun; then moved back again toward slavery," Du Bois wrote in his great study, "Black Reconstruction in America." Then came the Second Reconstruction, better known as the civil-rights movement. Now we are where we are. What's next is entirely up to us.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2019, 10:32:27 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2019, 07:58:47 AM
It would be a lot easier if the news, late night comedians and fellow languishtas adopted the same policy.

Yes. Yes it would.

Yes, we do need to starve him of attention. But then who knows what crazy shit he'd get up to...:(

Not sure it can get much worse when the point is reached that facts mean nothing for a large number of American voters.   

I mean that he might do something even more disastrous to draw attention if we all averted our eyes.

ah, good point

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...:(

As it was mentioned earlier the Economist's piece on the fall of conservativism could not have been better timed. In the UK the Torys go absolute shitbonker rightwing to avoid shedding some votes to Farage's shitbonker rightwing party, while in the US the GOP keeps sinking ever lower.

The Minsky Moment

What we need is Trump's Marguerite Crouzet.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Minsky Moment

Obscure European history references is what this place is supposed to be all about.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Syt

Btw, let me see if I understand's Trump's opinion correctly:

If you're in the USA and don't like it, instead of trying to fix it you should leave.
If you're in not-USA and don't like it, you should try to fix it instead of leaving.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Syt on July 16, 2019, 11:57:15 AM
Btw, let me see if I understand's Trump's opinion correctly:

If you're in the USA and don't like it, instead of trying to fix it you should leave. Unless you are a white christian heterosexual male.
If you're in not-USA and don't like it, you should try to fix it instead of leaving.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.