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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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derspiess

Quote from: HVC on December 08, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
Maybe not that extreme, but they're saying he's in the bag for Hillary and the Dems and is out to get Trump.  This was red meat for them: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html

So removing someone with a conflict of interest proves they have a conflict of interest?

Not at all.  It's evidence that at least one person in the investigation (when there are probably more--  hell, maybe even all of them!) was virulently anti-Trump, which taints the entire investigation. 
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 08, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
Maybe not that extreme, but they're saying he's in the bag for Hillary and the Dems and is out to get Trump.  This was red meat for them: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html

So removing someone with a conflict of interest proves they have a conflict of interest?

Not at all.  It's evidence that at least one person in the investigation (when there are probably more--  hell, maybe even all of them!) was virulently anti-Trump, which taints the entire investigation.


Perhaps we should expand this to all law enforcement.  Any investigation by a law enforcement officer of a person who hold political views different than that the officer is tainted.
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derspiess

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FunkMonk

Quote from: garbon on December 08, 2017, 10:08:54 AM
QuoteThe U.S. economy created 228,000 jobs in November while the unemployment rate held steady at 4.1 percent, the Labor Department reported Friday.

Economists surveyed by Reuters had expected nonfarm payrolls to grow by 200,000.

A more encompassing measure of joblessness that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time positions for economic reasons moved up one-tenth of a point to 8 percent. The ranks of those not in the labor force edged higher by 35,000 to 95.4 million.

I'm kind of worried that whenever this econony decides to take a turn and if Donald is still President that he will start some sort of investigation and trot me and my colleagues out to a firing squad for producing "fake numbers" cooked up to make him look bad  :(
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DGuller

I just cannot keep myself from being truly scared at what is going on with attacks on Mueller.  At this point people have to have some idea in the back of their minds that Mueller is a danger because he's likely to link Trump to Russia, and that's where all this nonsense is coming from. 

Whether the good guys win this fight, or Trump somehow manages to bury the investigation like Erdogan buried his, the people that are trying to get Trump out of this treason jam are still going to be with us.  They'll be ready to collaborate with the bad guys on the next assault on democracy.  I don't know how we step away from the brink here.

Habbaku

Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 08, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
Maybe not that extreme, but they're saying he's in the bag for Hillary and the Dems and is out to get Trump.  This was red meat for them: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html

So removing someone with a conflict of interest proves they have a conflict of interest?

Not at all.  It's evidence that at least one person in the investigation (when there are probably more--  hell, maybe even all of them!) was virulently anti-Trump, which taints the entire investigation.

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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
US getting closer to full employment: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/08/november-nonfarm-payrolls.html

Was it Seedy that said a few years back that we'll never ever get below something like 8% unemployment?

Good news. May it continue.

QuoteNot at all.  It's evidence that at least one person in the investigation (when there are probably more--  hell, maybe even all of them!) was virulently anti-Trump, which taints the entire investigation.

Jesus Christ dude. That kind of thinking would make it virtually impossible to ever investigate any of these politicians. Are you insane?
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Quote from: DGuller on December 08, 2017, 12:16:39 PM
I just cannot keep myself from being truly scared at what is going on with attacks on Mueller.  At this point people have to have some idea in the back of their minds that Mueller is a danger because he's likely to link Trump to Russia, and that's where all this nonsense is coming from. 

Whether the good guys win this fight, or Trump somehow manages to bury the investigation like Erdogan buried his, the people that are trying to get Trump out of this treason jam are still going to be with us.  They'll be ready to collaborate with the bad guys on the next assault on democracy.  I don't know how we step away from the brink here.

It's been discouraging little while that's for sure.

Berkut

Quote from: Valmy on December 08, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 08, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
US getting closer to full employment: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/08/november-nonfarm-payrolls.html

Was it Seedy that said a few years back that we'll never ever get below something like 8% unemployment?

Good news. May it continue.

QuoteNot at all.  It's evidence that at least one person in the investigation (when there are probably more--  hell, maybe even all of them!) was virulently anti-Trump, which taints the entire investigation.

Jesus Christ dude. That kind of thinking would make it virtually impossible to ever investigate any of these politicians. Are you insane?

He is repeating what they are saying, not agreeing with it.
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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on December 08, 2017, 12:16:39 PM
I just cannot keep myself from being truly scared at what is going on with attacks on Mueller.  At this point people have to have some idea in the back of their minds that Mueller is a danger because he's likely to link Trump to Russia, and that's where all this nonsense is coming from. 

Whether the good guys win this fight, or Trump somehow manages to bury the investigation like Erdogan buried his, the people that are trying to get Trump out of this treason jam are still going to be with us.  They'll be ready to collaborate with the bad guys on the next assault on democracy.  I don't know how we step away from the brink here.

This - I was trying to get through to someone that at the end of the day...

YOU ARE FUCKING SIDING WITH PUTIN AGAINST THE FBI/CIA/NSA/EVERYOTHERUSINTELAGENCY

Like, seriously? Do you get that? You are taking the side of the actual enemies of the US, against the people we have hired to protect us from THOSE EXACT SAME ENEMIES.
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Valmy

Quote from: Berkut on December 08, 2017, 12:59:39 PM
He is repeating what they are saying, not agreeing with it.

Ah. Whew.

Should have known better. Sorry Spicey.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."


Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."