What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[11B4V]

"If you don't come back to god, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

[grumbler]

Any Canadian trying to talk smack about the US Civil War deserves to face Hurricane Berkut and Typhoon Grumbler. 

CC is stubborn; he has tried and failed with this argument that US rights come from the government (using the exact same naked assertions each time, and being decisively refuted by the exact same evidence each time) four or five times over the last three years or so.  I'm not sure whether he just forgets his many defeats, or whether he just hopes that we have.  Whichever case is true, his cause remains hopeless because it is founded on his invincible ignorance.  He can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

[crazy canuck]

The US constitution expressly acknowledges the existance of such rights in the Ninth Amedment:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. 

Yes, that is pretty standard language in most constitutions so as not to abrogate rights which existed prior to the creation of the document.   It does not support your assertion that a constitution is not created to protect the rights enumerated in the the constitution.  Rather the opposite.

Also, you have identified why your claim that the US is somehow special in this regard is problematic.  The rights referred to are those that are the common law rights developed by the British legal system.

[crazy canuck]

Any Canadian trying to talk smack about the US Civil War deserves to face Hurricane Berkut and Typhoon Grumbler. 

CC is stubborn; he has tried and failed

The only thing I have tried and failed to do is obtain an explanation from you as to why you asserted the claim that a constitution does not protect rights. 

[CountDeMoney]

"If you don't come back to Godgod, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

[grumbler]

Yes, that is pretty standard language in most constitutions so as not to abrogate rights which existed prior to the creation of the document.   It does not support your assertion that a constitution is not created to protect the rights enumerated in the the constitution.  Rather the opposite.

  Wait... what?  You'll have to justify this position. If rights predate constitutions, they don't need constitutions to create or "protect" them (whatever that means).  Arguing that "the opposite" is true, without even attempting to justify such an absurd take on your own concession, is illogical.

Also, you have identified why your claim that the US is somehow special in this regard is problematic.  The rights referred to are those that are the common law rights developed by the British legal system.

This is a total strawman.  i have never claimed that the US is unique in this regard.  In fact, I regard it as universally true, and parliamentary sovereignty to be untenable.

You have conceded, I take it, that Canada's parliament is not sovereign?  You have carefully skipped past that argument as you earlier made it, so I assume that you did so to avoid explicitly conceding that you were wrong.  That's okay.  No one here expects you to be intellectually honest enough to concede explicitly. Implicit concessions are all we know we will ever get.

[grumbler]

The only thing I have tried and failed to do is obtain an explanation from you as to why you asserted the claim that a constitution does not protect rights. 

I need not defend a position I have never taken.  Have you weaseled your strawman arguments enough yet to bore even yourself with them, or are we going to continue to see you trying out new strawman arguments to avoid conceding the points I am spanking you on?

[Grey Fox]

"If you don't come back to Godgod, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

Really?

Fucking snowflake.

[Admiral Yi]

25 even money Moore bails out.

[11B4V]

"If you don't come back to Godgod, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

Really?

Fucking snowflake.

Apparently you are the one offended.

[Grey Fox]

"If you don't come back to Godgod, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

Really?

Fucking snowflake.

Apparently you are the one offended.

Really?

Fucking fruitflake.
            snowcake.

[11B4V]

"If you don't come back to Godgod, we are not going anywhere as a country."- Roy Moore

Fucking fruitcake

Really?

Fucking snowflake.

Apparently you are the one offended.

Really?

Fucking fruitflake.
            snowcake.

Ball bag

[garbon]

Testicles have their own quiet charm.

[11B4V]

 

[crazy canuck]

This is a total strawman.  i have never claimed that the US is unique in this regard.  In fact, I regard it as universally true, and parliamentary sovereignty to be untenable.

You have conceded, I take it, that Canada's parliament is not sovereign? 

As to the first point, please explain further then what you meant by drawing a distinction between the Parliamentary system of government and the US form of government.

As to the second point, I have no idea how you got there. In fact quite the opposite.