What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[CountDeMoney]

And his DoJ confirms open season on anyone the fucking pigs want to shoot.  Especially if they are of the brown persuasion.

Beyond embarrassing, but another in a long list of shameful rollbacks by this administration.

[Valmy]

Woman found guilty and facing up to a year in prison for laughing at Jeff Sessions during confirmation hearing: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/jeff-sessions-protester-charged-laughing

In related news, Jeff Sessions lies to senators during confirmation hearing, becomes Attorney General.

And his DoJ confirms open season on anyone the fucking pigs want to shoot.  Especially if they are of the brown persuasion.

This is one of those things I just do not get. The conservatives are supposed to be about limited government but they seem weirdly ok with the government shooting American citizens without trial and it is not like all of them are brown so the racism angle doesn't even play out entirely. They should be on our side with regard to this thing but instead they invented this stupid strawman about how if you are not down with unlimited power of life or death in the hands of public employees you are a cop killer.

Fortunately local political pressure seems to be bearing some fruit so far.

[jimmy olsen]

Can we stop with the claim that somehow Bernie's plan starts and stops with single payer healthcare?

50% upper tax rate and breaking up big banks is hardly to the left of the presidents I mentioned above.

Considering there was no income tax at all during TR's political career color me suspicious.

Talking about FDR, Truman and LBJ there.

TR I was just talking about health care.

[jimmy olsen]

Sanders wants to start paying for College Education and God knows what else. His protectionist and draconian economic controls are another thing.

Literally paying for college would be cheaper than the jury rigged system we have now.

[DGuller]

Sanders wants to start paying for College Education and God knows what else. His protectionist and draconian economic controls are another thing.

Literally paying for college would be cheaper than the jury rigged system we have now.

Hopefully more effective at providing education as well. 

[DGuller]

This is one of those things I just do not get. The conservatives are supposed to be about limited government but they seem weirdly ok with the government shooting American citizens without trial and it is not like all of them are brown so the racism angle doesn't even play out entirely. They should be on our side with regard to this thing but instead they invented this stupid strawman about how if you are not down with unlimited power of life or death in the hands of public employees you are a cop killer.

Fortunately local political pressure seems to be bearing some fruit so far.

It's easy to get once you realize that limited government is a selectively used pretext rather than a genuinely held belief.  What is more consistent in conservatives everywhere in the world is the implicit or explicit support of authoritarianism.

[grumbler]

Sanders wants to start paying for College Education and God knows what else. His protectionist and draconian economic controls are another thing.

Literally paying for college would be cheaper than the jury rigged system we have now.

Hopefully more effective at providing education as well. 

  Tim took English class from Lady Mondegreen.

[grumbler]

It's easy to get once you realize that limited government is a selectively used pretext rather than a genuinely held belief.  What is more consistent in conservatives everywhere in the world is the implicit or explicit support of authoritarianism.

This is just as consistently true of leftists in the world, of course.  There are few leftists not  willing to jettison their pretense of care about liberty if it means they can impose their will on "conservatives."

[jimmy olsen]

Sanders wants to start paying for College Education and God knows what else. His protectionist and draconian economic controls are another thing.

Literally paying for college would be cheaper than the jury rigged system we have now.

Hopefully more effective at providing education as well. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rigging

[The Minsky Moment]

There are few leftists not  willing to jettison their pretense of care about liberty if it means they can impose their will on "conservatives."

Depends what you mean by "leftist"
The whole generation of liberals that came of age during the rise of Nazism and Soviet Communism would not fall into that category.  Orwell, Aron, Berlin, Niebuhr, Koestler etc.  That strain is not as influential as it used to be but it's still live.

[grumbler]

There are few leftists not  willing to jettison their pretense of care about liberty if it means they can impose their will on "conservatives."

Depends what you mean by "leftist"
The whole generation of liberals that came of age during the rise of Nazism and Soviet Communism would not fall into that category.  Orwell, Aron, Berlin, Niebuhr, Koestler etc.  That strain is not as influential as it used to be but it's still live.

It also depends on whether I was making a tongue-in-cheek silly comment mocking someone else's silly comment. 

[CountDeMoney]

The whole generation of liberals that came of age during the rise of Nazism and Soviet Communism would not fall into that category.  Orwell, Aron, Berlin, Niebuhr, Koestler etc.  That strain is not as influential as it used to be but it's still live.

Yeah, but they're just tenured now.  With office hours between 2pm and 4pm on Tuesdays only, and who the fuck can make that appointment, what with how fucked campus parking is during the week.

[The Minsky Moment]

Yeah, but they're just tenured now.  With office hours between 2pm and 4pm on Tuesdays only, and who the fuck can make that appointment, what with how fucked campus parking is during the week.

Ok Ideologue.

[Oexmelin]

Yeah, but they're just tenured now.  With office hours between 2pm and 4pm on Tuesdays only, and who the fuck can make that appointment, what with how fucked campus parking is during the week.

These people certainly exist (I would know...) - but they are of the "respectable, moderate liberal" subtype, a full generation younger than the old guard leftists, very few of whom now remains.   

[grumbler]

I missed it if someone brought up George Will's scathing attack on Trumpian naivete.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-a-dangerous-disability/2017/05/03/56ca6118-2f6b-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.2ef82fbea237

The money quote:

What is most alarming (and mortifying to the University of Pennsylvania, from which he graduated) is not that Trump has entered his eighth decade unscathed by even elementary knowledge about the nation's history. As this column has said before, the problem isn't that he does not know this or that, or that he does not know that he does not know this or that. Rather, the dangerous thing is that he does not know what it is to know something.

That hits the bulls-eye.  Trump isn't dishonest because he is a scamp who loves to pull our legs, he is dishonest because he doesn't know the difference between honesty and dishonesty.  He's a pure Stage One moral reasoner.