What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

I have been watching "The Circus" on Showtime.  In the last episode they were pretty much making your point by highlighting the "resistance" movement in the US and how difficult it has been for mainstream democrats to appeal to that movement.

I don't know... maybe if they run a white guy?

Not sure a white guy other than Bernie is going to do that.  Warren seems the best bet.  Fienstein was getting jeered and booed at her town hall  meeting for being too mainstream.

[crazy canuck]

The only candidate I saw the DNC opposing was a dangerous far left socialist demagogue. I am sure the DNC would have been overjoyed had O'Malley or Biden or whomever had won the nomination. But it is not like the Dems have a deep bench right now. Pelosi is still Speaker for godsake.

Sanders is not any further left economically than LBJ, Truman or FDR and they were some of the greatest Presidents in history.  Jeremy Corbyn he's not.

I think you are going to lose that argument.  Anyone in the US who advocates for a single payor health care model is by definition a dangerous far left socialist. 

[Fate]

The only candidate I saw the DNC opposing was a dangerous far left socialist demagogue. I am sure the DNC would have been overjoyed had O'Malley or Biden or whomever had won the nomination. But it is not like the Dems have a deep bench right now. Pelosi is still Speaker for godsake.

Sanders is not any further left economically than LBJ, Truman or FDR and they were some of the greatest Presidents in history.  Jeremy Corbyn he's not.

I think you are going to lose that argument.  Anyone in the US who advocates for a single payor health care model is by definition a dangerous far left socialist.

If Trump can't fix Obamacare (and truly fix it, not sabotage it by neglect or via the American Health Care Act) then single payer is coming down the line.

Next time around when the Dems control both Houses and the Presidency they will eliminate the filibuster on legislation, unless Trump does that first. No more pandering to red state Democrats. I'm betting that Medicare For All will pass on a majority vote in by 2024 or 2028.

[Valmy]

Health Care is different. I think anybody who reviews the facts involved would come to the conclusion we need to imitate the more efficient systems of the other first world countries, despite all their problems.

[crazy canuck]

The only candidate I saw the DNC opposing was a dangerous far left socialist demagogue. I am sure the DNC would have been overjoyed had O'Malley or Biden or whomever had won the nomination. But it is not like the Dems have a deep bench right now. Pelosi is still Speaker for godsake.

Sanders is not any further left economically than LBJ, Truman or FDR and they were some of the greatest Presidents in history.  Jeremy Corbyn he's not.

I think you are going to lose that argument.  Anyone in the US who advocates for a single payor health care model is by definition a dangerous far left socialist.

If Trump can't fix Obamacare (and truly fix it, not sabotage it by neglect or via the American Health Care Act) then single payer is coming down the line.

Next time around when the Dems control both Houses and the Presidency they will eliminate the filibuster on legislation, unless Trump does that first. No more pandering to red state Democrats. I'm betting that Medicare For All will pass on a majority vote in by 2024 or 2028.

What if Trump simply fails to do anything, as is the current trend.

[CountDeMoney]

Not sure a white guy other than Bernie is going to do that.  Warren seems the best bet.  Fienstein was getting jeered and booed at her town hall  meeting for being too mainstream.

This country will not elect a woman to the WH, not for another generation or so.  And Warren has already wandered into Clinton/Pelosi Cunts Real Americans Fucking Hate territory.

[Fate]

The only candidate I saw the DNC opposing was a dangerous far left socialist demagogue. I am sure the DNC would have been overjoyed had O'Malley or Biden or whomever had won the nomination. But it is not like the Dems have a deep bench right now. Pelosi is still Speaker for godsake.

Sanders is not any further left economically than LBJ, Truman or FDR and they were some of the greatest Presidents in history.  Jeremy Corbyn he's not.

I think you are going to lose that argument.  Anyone in the US who advocates for a single payor health care model is by definition a dangerous far left socialist.

If Trump can't fix Obamacare (and truly fix it, not sabotage it by neglect or via the American Health Care Act) then single payer is coming down the line.

Next time around when the Dems control both Houses and the Presidency they will eliminate the filibuster on legislation, unless Trump does that first. No more pandering to red state Democrats. I'm betting that Medicare For All will pass on a majority vote in by 2024 or 2028.

What if Trump simply fails to do anything, as is the current trend.

Well, he keeps threatening to stop subsidy payments for deductibles on low income people (why the hell this is up to the discretion of the executive instead of in the letter of the law is beside me...). Private health insurers are already on the fence about continuing to provide Obamacare plans. If he keeps creating uncertainty he will cause the remaining players to abandon the individual market which includes ~15 million people. The Medicaid and other regulatory aspects of Obamacare would continue.

[crazy canuck]

Not sure a white guy other than Bernie is going to do that.  Warren seems the best bet.  Fienstein was getting jeered and booed at her town hall  meeting for being too mainstream.

This country will not elect a woman to the WH, not for another generation or so.  And Warren has already wandered into Clinton/Pelosi Cunts Real Americans Fucking Hate territory.

I was talking about the Democrat best positioned at the moment to capture the "resistance" movement identified in the last episode of "The Circus".  Whether or not the American public will ever elect a female President in the future is hard to know and may well be moot given how things are going now.

[CountDeMoney]

I was talking about the Democrat best positioned at the moment to capture the "resistance" movement identified in the last episode of "The Circus".

Fine, I amend my statement to just--

Warren has already wandered into Clinton/Pelosi Cunts Real Americans Fucking Hate territory.

--so she's right out.

[The Minsky Moment]

Next time around when the Dems control both Houses and the Presidency they will eliminate the filibuster on legislation, unless Trump does that first.

Trump's already squawking about it.
The demise of the ersatz Senate filibuster may be one the silver linings of this hot mess of a Presidency.  In their craven desire to placate their man-child President and his Whine House, the Senate may accidentally restore themselves to functionality again.

[The Minsky Moment]

the "resistance" movement

WTF
Star Wars is not real, folks.

[CountDeMoney]

No shit.  Terms like that annoy all those mainstream middle Americans.

[The Brain]

Isn't this resistance more like Chocolate Mousse and Latrine?

[derspiess]

Sorry if this has been posted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-blames-russian-hackers-and-comey-for-2016-election-loss/2017/05/02/e62fef72-2f60-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html

Clinton stated broadly that she takes "absolute personal responsibility" for her failure to win the White House. Yet the Democratic nominee declined to fault her strategy or message, nor did she acknowledge her own weak­nesses as a campaigner or the struggles by her and her advisers to at first comprehend and then respond to the angry mood of broad swaths of the electorate.

Instead, Clinton attributed her defeat to a range of external ­forces, including saying she was a victim of misogyny and of "false equivalency" in the news media.

Clinton said she was confident that she was on track to winning the election until two things reversed her momentum: the release of campaign chairman John Podesta's emails, which were allegedly stolen by Russian hackers, and Comey's Oct. 28 letter to Congress that he had reopened the bureau's investigation into her use of a private email server.

"I was on the way to winning until the combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off — and the evidence for that intervening event is, I think, compelling [and] persuasive," Clinton said.

  Go back to the woods, Hillary.

[HVC]

"I take absolute responsibility for everyone but me sucking"