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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Larch

Are they going to do a personalized cap for each country? Some of them could be...controversial.

Archy

Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2017, 08:42:34 AM
A swede just stole a butane delivery truck and drove it against traffic in downtown Barcelona.  :hmm:
Those bachelor parties are out of control.

viper37

Quote from: LaCroix on February 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 20, 2017, 02:58:59 PMWhen will people give up this zero/sum view of world relations/economics?

never. I mean, look at those for example who can't even admit when trump beats his enemies (no china coal to north korea)
I thought coal was great?  Didn't your President campaign on that? :)
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

I wonder if the feeling is widespread.  I've read comments from former CIA members hinting at the same, but I've no idea how bad it is.

CIA analyst leaves over disagreement with Trump's policies
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Syt

Trump was right after all! :o

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/world/europe/stockholm-sweden-riots-trump.html?_r=0

QuoteRiots Break Out in Stockholm Suburb, Drawing Attention to Trump's Remarks

STOCKHOLM — Residents in a northwestern suburb of Stockholm predominantly inhabited by immigrants clashed with police officers on Monday, two days after the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, unleashed a vague but pointed critique of Sweden's migration policies.

About 20 to 30 masked men threw stones and other objects at police officers in the suburb, Rinkeby, after the police arrested a man on suspicion of dealing drugs. A police officer fired a warning shot, but the disturbances continued for several more hours, stretching into early Tuesday morning. A photojournalist was injured in the disturbances.

The episode drew scrutiny worldwide because of President Trump's assertions — based on a Fox News segment — that Sweden had experienced a surge in crime and violence as a result of taking in large numbers of refugees.

Swedish officials have criticized his statements as exaggerations. Preliminary statistics do not show a major increase in crime from 2015, when the country processed a record 163,000 asylum applications, to 2016. Riots like the one in Rinkeby, officials said, are not unprecedented but are infrequent.

Nonetheless, the disturbances in Rinkeby were seized upon by some people online as evidence of Mr. Trump's claim. Rinkeby, an area of around 16,000 people, is overwhelmingly populated by residents with immigrant backgrounds — in particular, Somali and Arab among them — and has been the site of previous clashes between residents and the police.

Right-wing media in the United States and elsewhere have insisted that Sweden is covering up evidence of migrant-related crimes — a claim officials in this prosperous Scandinavian nation, which has a long humanitarian tradition, have rejected.

Lars Bystrom, a police spokesman, said police were summoned at 8:18 p.m. on Monday to the transit station in Rinkeby, about 7.2 miles northwest of Stockholm's City Hall, after officers made a drug-related arrest and then were set upon by local residents.

A police officer fired a live round of ammunition as a warning shot. "No one was hit, but it had the intended effect of clearing the scene so that police could make an arrest," Officer Bystrom said.

The disturbances did not end; the rioting intensified, with up to 70 people throwing stones and objects, before police finally got the situation under control around 12:15 a.m., he said.

Asked whether there was enough of a police presence in Rinkeby, Officer Bystrom cited the district police chief, Niklas Andersson, in describing police resources in the area as more plentiful than ever. But Officer Bystrom also said that officials would continue to bolster security.

Patrik Derk, the district director for Rinkeby-Kista, the northernmost of the boroughs that make up the municipality of Stockholm, said it would be a mistake to see proof of Mr. Trump's claims in the rioting.

"This type of problem exists in most countries, even in the U.S.A.," he said in a phone interview. "And we are managing these problems and will succeed with this. They're complex problems."

Mr. Derk was hired in late 2015 to "make Rinkeby a better place to grow up and live in," as he put it. He previously helped turn around the Hovsjo district of Sodertalje, a city southwest of Stockholm that, like Rinkeby, has a large population of low-income immigrants.

"We created jobs through building development initiatives and training unemployed youth," he said, adding that the efforts involved collaboration with the police and economic investments. "And that's what we are trying to do here. Create a condition for the residents to live a good life in the area. I know it's possible to change these things but it's a long-term effort and these are difficult questions. We created a lot of jobs for youth. We built a new school. We worked with the criminals, and helped them to get away from that path."

Mr. Derk acknowledged that Rinkeby had big problems: "It is one of the more troubled areas in terms of school results, tight quarters, unemployment."

Benjamin Dousa, 24, an appointed member of a local board in Rinkeby that distributes public money for schools, social services, parks and recreation and elder care, offered a less sanguine view than Mr. Derk.

Mr. Dousa, in an opinion essay for the newspaper Expressen, said that Mr. Trump's critique had some merit.

"A battered journalist, stones thrown at the police and stores that are being plundered, unfortunately, are not unusual occurrences where I live," he said. "I hear the police helicopter every other day."

He said that in the neighborhood: "This type of criminality has become part of everyday life: On average, we have one outbreak of violence a month, a car fire every day and the most shootings with deadly outcomes in the country. Would this really be accepted where the prime minister lives?"
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Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 21, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Aren't warning shots a big nono?

Dealing with an individual, yes.

In dealing with a riot?  I suspect they have their place.
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Syt

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/world/british-muslim-teacher-denied-us-trnd/index.html

QuoteBritish Muslim schoolteacher denied entry to US

(CNN)A British teacher on a school field trip was escorted off an Icelandair flight to New York as 39 students looked on in shock.

"As I was making my way out of the plane I looked back at the kids to tell them everything was going to be okay. The look I got off the kids, they were shocked, they couldn't believe what was happening. This is when I felt like I was a criminal," Juhel Miah, a math teacher at Llangatwg Comprehensive School in Wales told CNN.

Miah, 25, was one of four school staff accompanying the children, aged 12-15, on a trip to New York, that included a one-night stopover in Reykjavik, Iceland.

British citizen

Miah, who is Muslim, was born in Birmingham, England, and grew up in Swansea, Wales. The trip was due to be his first visit to the US. He was traveling on his British passport with a US visitor's visa, he told CNN. Miah is not a citizen of any other country.

'Ticked all the right boxes'

"It all started when I met the first official. I gave her my passport. My first name is Mohammad. Straight away she looked at me and said you have been randomly selected for a security check," Miah told CNN.

After a brief search, Miah was allowed to board the plane. But shortly after that, he was informed he had been denied entry to the US and wouldn't be able to travel.

"I asked her on what ground was I denied access. I got my ESTA [US visitor's] visa, I have a British passport, I ticked all the rights boxes. She did not give me an answer," he said.

Icelandair told CNN, "We refused carriage to Mr. Miah based on a recommendation from the US Customs and Border Protection Agency and line with our conditions of carriage."

The school trip proceeded but the teacher's removal from the flight left students "shocked and distressed," the school district said in a statement. The students, aged 12-15, returned from the US on Monday.

Miah returned to the United Kingdom the following day.

'Act of discrimination'

In a letter to British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, Carwyn Jones, the First Minister of Wales, said the incident appeared to be "an act of discrimination against a UK passport holder, and asked Johnson to seek an explanation from US authorities.

Jones said the incident appeared to contradict Foreign Office advice for UK citizens traveling to the US, and statements made by Johnson.

Days after President Donald Trump's executive order travel ban was signed on January 27, Johnson told the House of Commons, "We have received assurances from the U.S. Embassy that this executive order will make no difference to any British passport holder, irrespective of their country of birth or whether they hold another passport."

The British Foreign Office said in a statement provided to CNN, "We are providing support to a British man who was prevented from boarding a flight in Reykjavik," but did not provide further details.

The Muslim Council of Wales said it was "deeply troubled" by the incident.

CNN has reached out to US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) for more information.
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Riots you say? In Rinkeby you say? SHOCKER STOP THE PRESSES
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dps

Quote from: viper37 on February 21, 2017, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on February 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 20, 2017, 02:58:59 PMWhen will people give up this zero/sum view of world relations/economics?

never. I mean, look at those for example who can't even admit when trump beats his enemies (no china coal to north korea)
I thought coal was great?  Didn't your President campaign on that? :)

Well, if it's great, we don't want the North Koreans to have it, now do we?

grumbler

Quote from: dps on February 21, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 21, 2017, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on February 20, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 20, 2017, 02:58:59 PMWhen will people give up this zero/sum view of world relations/economics?

never. I mean, look at those for example who can't even admit when trump beats his enemies (no china coal to north korea)
I thought coal was great?  Didn't your President campaign on that? :)

Well, if it's great, we don't want the North Koreans to have it, now do we?

Except that President Fuckup's fuckwits fucked up again (thinking North Korea imported coal from China rather than exporting to it), and the Norks have more coal now than ever!  :(
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The traditional method of heating Korean homes is burning compressed coal briquettes (yonton) to heat water that circulates in pipes under the floor.  A danger of this system is carbon monoxide poisoning.  The US Armed Forces television I grew up watching aired constant warning to be on the lookout for yonton poisoning. :nerd:

11B4V

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 21, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
The traditional method of heating Korean homes is burning compressed coal briquettes (yonton) to heat water that circulates in pipes under the floor.  A danger of this system is carbon monoxide poisoning.  The US Armed Forces television I grew up watching aired constant warning to be on the lookout for yonton poisoning. :nerd:

Backwards Barbarians.
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LaCroix

the milo = pedophile supporter craze seemed strange to me, like the people spreading it were the type who should be defending against things like sex offender lists. yet they're not, they're attacking milo for saying something he said that supported pedos