What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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mongers

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 02, 2025, 04:38:30 PMI wasn't clear in my original post that I was referring to the DHS as a whole, not ICE specifically.  The whole department was formed to deal with brown people terrorism, and I think it's colored most of the agencies in it.  INS wasn't great, either, but ICE has taken it to the next level.

I think a small part of the problem is they gave them a 'cool' acronym, 'ICE, man we're badass Mofos' some of them probably 'think' when on their way into work.
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Admiral Yi

I never had any problem with folks at the airport flying in.  I've never met any of the folks who handle deportations so I don't feel qualified to offer a generalization about their characters.

Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on April 02, 2025, 04:27:09 PMTariffs for everything and everyone. Biggest tax increase in American history? Should be more than 500 billion a year (10+% on imports of 3.2 trillion). Of course regressive, so hitting poor and middle income earners harder.



Damn. What did Cambodia ever do to us?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on April 02, 2025, 06:38:16 PMDamn. What did Cambodia ever do to us?

Either they have a trade surplus with us or maintain some tariffs on imports from us I would guess.  That seems to be the new White House narrative.

It's interesting how Trump rotated from stopping fentanyl smuggling to trade policy.


Grey Fox

A Quebec commentator mentioned that Trump seems to think that the USA is a 3rd world  economy where it's exploited by everyone instead of the Economic powerhouse it is.

Sounded very apt.
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mongers

Quote from: Grey Fox on April 02, 2025, 07:26:22 PMA Quebec commentator mentioned that Trump seems to think that the USA is a 3rd world  economy where it's exploited by everyone instead of the Economic powerhouse it is.

Sounded very apt.

No you mis-heard, that's his ambition for the US.
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PRC

North Korea and Russia are both absent from the list. 

Apparently the formula for the tariffs seems to be... identify trade deficit, then the tariff rate will be (trade deficit / total imports) * 100.

US exports $50bn to country X and imports $80bn.  Trade deficit is $30bn.  Then (30bn / 80bn) * 100 = 37.5%.  There is your tariff for country X.

viper37

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 02, 2025, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 02, 2025, 06:38:16 PMDamn. What did Cambodia ever do to us?

Either they have a trade surplus with us or maintain some tariffs on imports from us I would guess.  That seems to be the new White House narrative.

It's interesting how Trump rotated from stopping fentanyl smuggling to trade policy.


They have a trade surplus because they are a poor country.

Vietnam has a trade surplus for similar reason, but also because a lot of Chinese manufacturing move there after the first waves of tariffs hit China.

Anyhow.

This just renders the US unreliable as a trade partner and non American businesses will invest elsewhere from now on rather than risk being in the US.  Their home countries will have export tariffs on everything that is deemed essential to the US, and unanticipated retaliatory measures may come to byte the US in the ass in not so long.

For one, this tariff on Taiwan makes every tech more expensive.  American companies will quickly lose their edge in the international market as they were already lagging behind China.

China will push back hard.
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Razgovory

We also have tariffs on uninhabited Arctic and Antarctic islands, in case penguins or polar bears try something.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: viper37 on April 02, 2025, 08:16:10 PMThey have a trade surplus because they are a poor country.

They have a trade surplus because they have a capital account surplus.

Many rich countries have a trade surplus.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2025, 08:44:22 PMWe also have tariffs on uninhabited Arctic and Antarctic islands, in case penguins or polar bears try something.

This may explain some of the reasoning behind this:
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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2025, 08:44:22 PMWe also have tariffs on uninhabited Arctic and Antarctic islands, in case penguins or polar bears try something.

The largest tariff handed out was to...St. Pierre and Miquelon. No more selling fish to the United States you bastards!

I am kind of baffled why they would have a different tariff than France itself. Do the islands have an independent trade policy or something? They use the Euro, why wouldn't they just get the blanket EU tariff?
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HVC

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 02, 2025, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2025, 08:44:22 PMWe also have tariffs on uninhabited Arctic and Antarctic islands, in case penguins or polar bears try something.

This may explain some of the reasoning behind this:


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Sophie Scholl

China and Taiwan having different rates kind of kills the One China Policy. That should make China even happier.  :frusty:
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Razgovory

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 02, 2025, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2025, 08:44:22 PMWe also have tariffs on uninhabited Arctic and Antarctic islands, in case penguins or polar bears try something.

This may explain some of the reasoning behind this:

This is fucking surreal.  
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017