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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Josquius

So there's all this stuff from trump not understanding tariffs. And given he presents as being anti China....
I wonder why there's no attacks on the universal postal union from him. Or have i missed it?
From what I understand this is a key way Chinese tat manages to undercut Western business, taking advantage of the favourable postal rates for being a developing country.
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Richard Hakluyt

He hasn't heard of it and/or neither have his voters. Let's hope the subject never comes up.

Josquius

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Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 31, 2024, 04:35:25 AMHe hasn't heard of it and/or neither have his voters. Let's hope the subject never comes up.


Not something I've looked into too deeply so curious to know if there's reasons why it's an awful idea ...
But from the little I've heard stopping China  getting these favourable postage rates does sound like a pretty sensible move. They're exploiting a system setup for totally different purposes and can no longer really be classed as undeveloped.
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mongers

Quote from: Josquius on December 31, 2024, 06:23:25 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 31, 2024, 04:35:25 AMHe hasn't heard of it and/or neither have his voters. Let's hope the subject never comes up.


Not something I've looked into too deeply so curious to know if there's reasons why it's awful...
But from the little I've heard stopping China  getting these favourable postage rates does sound like a pretty sensible move. They're exploiting a system setup for totally different purposes and can no longer really be classed as undeveloped.

I think this issue has been reduced significantly because of the going fallout from the pandemic and the huge increasing in marine cargo shipping rates, air freight cost also went and so it got a lot more expensive to airmail tat around the world.

Looking on ebay there seems to be far less stuff going for a song shipped from China. Maybe China state also stopped subsidising air freight?? (That's just a wild guess on my part)
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

mongers

Man Trump is going to be so pissed that a Dead guy is going to be stealing the spotlight from him, just days before his presidency.

I can see one line of attack/needling being, "Dead guy's funeral has greater TV ratings that Trumps inauguration ."  :)
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Zanza

Quote from: mongers on December 31, 2024, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: Josquius on December 31, 2024, 06:23:25 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 31, 2024, 04:35:25 AMHe hasn't heard of it and/or neither have his voters. Let's hope the subject never comes up.


Not something I've looked into too deeply so curious to know if there's reasons why it's awful...
But from the little I've heard stopping China  getting these favourable postage rates does sound like a pretty sensible move. They're exploiting a system setup for totally different purposes and can no longer really be classed as undeveloped.

I think this issue has been reduced significantly because of the going fallout from the pandemic and the huge increasing in marine cargo shipping rates, air freight cost also went and so it got a lot more expensive to airmail tat around the world.

Looking on ebay there seems to be far less stuff going for a song shipped from China. Maybe China state also stopped subsidising air freight?? (That's just a wild guess on my part)
Shein and Temu are booming. Of course they don't just benefit from low air freight rates, but also from depressed economic situation in China which allows their brutally low procurement prices at the cost of the labourers that make the stuff.

mongers

Quote from: Zanza on December 31, 2024, 01:34:37 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 31, 2024, 09:14:50 AM
Quote from: Josquius on December 31, 2024, 06:23:25 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 31, 2024, 04:35:25 AMHe hasn't heard of it and/or neither have his voters. Let's hope the subject never comes up.


Not something I've looked into too deeply so curious to know if there's reasons why it's awful...
But from the little I've heard stopping China  getting these favourable postage rates does sound like a pretty sensible move. They're exploiting a system setup for totally different purposes and can no longer really be classed as undeveloped.

I think this issue has been reduced significantly because of the going fallout from the pandemic and the huge increasing in marine cargo shipping rates, air freight cost also went and so it got a lot more expensive to airmail tat around the world.

Looking on ebay there seems to be far less stuff going for a song shipped from China. Maybe China state also stopped subsidising air freight?? (That's just a wild guess on my part)
Shein and Temu are booming. Of course they don't just benefit from low air freight rates, but also from depressed economic situation in China which allows their brutally low procurement prices at the cost of the labourers that make the stuff.

Yes, I think this is just a sign of how out of touch am I, I've never been on those platform so clearly the cheapjack ebay sellers have just migrated over to those rather than give up.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Sheilbh

Quote from: Zanza on December 31, 2024, 01:34:37 PMShein and Temu are booming. Of course they don't just benefit from low air freight rates, but also from depressed economic situation in China which allows their brutally low procurement prices at the cost of the labourers that make the stuff.
In fact it's one of the areas of tension between the UK and an incoming Trump administration and EU that Shein are currently working towards an IPO in London.
Let's bomb Russia!

mongers

What is the likelihood that Trump will try and use the arson murder of that poor woman on the NY subway to make it an issue about the death penalty and migrants?

Maybe attempt to turn murder by illegal migrant a federal crime? :unsure:
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DGuller

Watch your language.  It's "undocumented", not "illegal".

Admiral Yi

Undocumented migrant is a noticeable improvement on undocumented worker.

crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on December 29, 2024, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 29, 2024, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 29, 2024, 03:07:50 PMI wish people were more subtle about "President Musk" stuff.  I'm sure someone like Trump can get the idea that Musk may be undermining him without smashing him in the face with it.  In fact, making it so transparent can backfire, and make Trump think that the left wants him to think that Musk is trying to undermine him.


It's hilarious how the people that are free speech advocates are selective of when their free speech ideology should apply.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with referring to Musk as President Musk.  This has got to be the weakest argument for self censorship I have ever read.
I'm not going to respond to this, but I'll quote it for preservation.  I don't really think CC is capable of recognizing when he writes something he should really edit before too many people read it, but you have to be extra safe with gems like this.

Good we can pull it out next time you bemoan the fact that people are too woke and that freedom of expression is being challenged.

It's also hilarious that you credit Trump with thinking about these things on a more subtle level than is actually happening.

Musk is useful to Trump. When Musk is no longer useful to Trump, Trump will turn on Musk.  It is as simple as that.




Zoupa

Quote from: DGuller on December 31, 2024, 05:22:14 PMWatch your language.  It's "undocumented", not "illegal".

We GET IT, dorsey.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: DGuller on December 31, 2024, 05:22:14 PMWatch your language.  It's "undocumented", not "illegal".

If it is intolerably PC to object to the label "illegal" being applied to a class of people who are following federal law, then I confess guilt.  Especially when so many using that label are offended when someone questions their judgment casting their vote for a genuine convicted felon.
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