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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

I doubt the GOP wants Canada in the union . . .

This is all typical Trumpian blowhard drama which will result in a DEAL that is really bigly and much better than anything Biden could ever do.

The contours of that deal will be pretty much what is already under discussion, namely some compromise on DST and NA auto content rules, and some unenforceable "pledges" on stuff like dairy and other ag products.  It will typical ho hum sort of trade stuff that Trump will package and upsell as the DEAL!

The trade deficit with Canada is an artifact of two factors: (1) Canadian crude oil is shipped to US refineries who then ship the refined product on - this is of obvious economic benefit to both parties, (2) the US has deeper and superior investment options so there is a regular capital flow from Canada --> US which is partly balanced by the trade deficit.  Again this is not something US business interests are likely to want to change.
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Zanza

The Anschluss of Canada is an unexpected first foreign policy move.

Barrister

Quote from: Neil on Today at 01:39:41 PMTrump seems to be really getting obsessed with getting Canada into the US.  Has he hired Tim as a senior advisor? 

So that almost makes sense - adding Canada to the US would appeal to a Tim-like EU (or HOI) player who likes painting the map.  If Trump actually could add Canada to the US it would be the US's greatest territorial expansion ever - even larger than the Louisiana Purchase or the purchase of Alaska.

It would make a certain amount of sense too - US would get access to all of our natural resources, Canadians would get visa-free ability to travel (and work) in the US.

Problem is it isn't the 19th century anymore.

There just aren't any modern precedents for integrating two large and successful countries.  I can only think of two examples.  One is integrating east germany into west germany.  The thing is though that the GDR was essentially bankrupt and with no real legitimacy - and it still cost an estimated 2 trillion euros and took decades.

The only other example is the EU - which again is a process that has taken decades and has only very partially unified those countries.
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 01:48:18 PMI doubt the GOP wants Canada in the union . . .

This is all typical Trumpian blowhard drama which will result in a DEAL that is really bigly and much better than anything Biden could ever do.

The contours of that deal will be pretty much what is already under discussion, namely some compromise on DST and NA auto content rules, and some unenforceable "pledges" on stuff like dairy and other ag products.  It will typical ho hum sort of trade stuff that Trump will package and upsell as the DEAL!

The trade deficit with Canada is an artifact of two factors: (1) Canadian crude oil is shipped to US refineries who then ship the refined product on - this is of obvious economic benefit to both parties, (2) the US has deeper and superior investment options so there is a regular capital flow from Canada --> US which is partly balanced by the trade deficit.  Again this is not something US business interests are likely to want to change.

Oh, God.  We are going to have four more years of this tedious bullshit.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 01:48:18 PMI doubt the GOP wants Canada in the union . . .

This is all typical Trumpian blowhard drama which will result in a DEAL that is really bigly and much better than anything Biden could ever do.

The contours of that deal will be pretty much what is already under discussion, namely some compromise on DST and NA auto content rules, and some unenforceable "pledges" on stuff like dairy and other ag products.  It will typical ho hum sort of trade stuff that Trump will package and upsell as the DEAL!

The trade deficit with Canada is an artifact of two factors: (1) Canadian crude oil is shipped to US refineries who then ship the refined product on - this is of obvious economic benefit to both parties, (2) the US has deeper and superior investment options so there is a regular capital flow from Canada --> US which is partly balanced by the trade deficit.  Again this is not something US business interests are likely to want to change.

Oh, God.  We are going to have four more years of this tedious bullshit.

It's what the American people voted for...
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 01:48:18 PMI doubt the GOP wants Canada in the union . . .

This is all typical Trumpian blowhard drama which will result in a DEAL that is really bigly and much better than anything Biden could ever do.

The contours of that deal will be pretty much what is already under discussion, namely some compromise on DST and NA auto content rules, and some unenforceable "pledges" on stuff like dairy and other ag products.  It will typical ho hum sort of trade stuff that Trump will package and upsell as the DEAL!

The trade deficit with Canada is an artifact of two factors: (1) Canadian crude oil is shipped to US refineries who then ship the refined product on - this is of obvious economic benefit to both parties, (2) the US has deeper and superior investment options so there is a regular capital flow from Canada --> US which is partly balanced by the trade deficit.  Again this is not something US business interests are likely to want to change.

Oh, God.  We are going to have four more years of this tedious bullshit.

I don't know what you mean I quite like JR's posts