Zika, drugs, and medals: The Rio Olympics thread

Started by celedhring, July 02, 2016, 04:12:43 AM

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Monoriu

I am amazed that we have anybody who qualifies for the olympics at all.  We suck at sports, so the fact that we are represented is already an achievement of sorts. 

alfred russel

Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 02, 2016, 05:24:06 PM
I saw a proposal from Christine Lagarde the other day suggesting that Athens be the permanent home of the Olympics instead of rotating it from city to city every four years.  I would be perfectly happy with that--it'd solve a lot of the problem of venue wastage at the very least.

The IOC wouldn't. Playing off candidate cities against each other so the games get bigger and bigger every time (with all the money that comes with that) is their business model.

I agree the whole thing is going to crash at some point, though.

Which is such bullshit. I agree that the Olympics are awesome, and they are awesome because of the competition. There isn't any need to blow $50billion on the winter games (though to be fair, it was probably more like a billion or two, with the balance going to corruption).
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-garbon, February 23, 2014

Tonitrus

The IOC should be outlawed, and given to a committee of the UN...probably nearly as corrupt, but at least maybe more oversight.  Does the IOC even really have any oversight whatsoever?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 02, 2016, 09:13:36 PM
The IOC should be outlawed, and given to a committee of the UN...probably nearly as corrupt, but at least maybe more oversight.  Does the IOC even really have any oversight whatsoever?

Who would win:  the IOC or FIFA?

Tonitrus

And how would the NFL fare, if not constrained by the US gov?  :P

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 02, 2016, 09:38:57 PM
And how would the NFL fare, if not constrained by the US gov?  :P

Exactly the same as it does now.  FIFA and the IOC are corrupt because they are ostensibly non profits that skim from a very lucrative operation.  The NFL *is* the lucrative operation.

alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2016, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 02, 2016, 09:38:57 PM
And how would the NFL fare, if not constrained by the US gov?  :P

Exactly the same as it does now.  FIFA and the IOC are corrupt because they are ostensibly non profits that skim from a very lucrative operation.  The NFL *is* the lucrative operation.

The NFL is also an ostensible non profit.  :P
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Admiral Yi

Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2016, 09:49:08 PM
The NFL is also an ostensible non profit.  :P

A man in your situation should not be splitting hairs.  :P

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 02, 2016, 09:38:57 PM
And how would the NFL fare, if not constrained by the US gov?  :P

I don't see where you're going with this.  If the NFL were truly constrained by the US government, then Bill Belichick would in prison, and half of Pittsburgh's playoff wins the last 10 years would be voided due to collusion.

Edit:  and Alfred is right;  the NFL is a non-profit;  it's NFL Properties that pulls the strings.

frunk

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 02, 2016, 09:52:23 PM
I don't see where you're going with this.  If the NFL were truly constrained by the US government, then Bill Belichick would in prison, and half of Pittsburgh's playoff wins the last 10 years would be voided due to collusion.

Edit:  and Alfred is right;  the NFL is a non-profit;  it's NFL Properties that pulls the strings.

Not anymore, they didn't like having to be public about how much their head honchos made.

QuoteThe NFL gave up the tax exempt status in 2015 following public criticism; in a letter to the club owners, Commissioner Roger Goodell labeled it a "distraction", saying "the effects of the tax exempt status of the league office have been mischaracterized repeatedly in recent years... Every dollar of income generated through television rights fees, licensing agreements, sponsorships, ticket sales, and other means is earned by the 32 clubs and is taxable there. This will remain the case even when the league office and Management Council file returns as taxable entities, and the change in filing status will make no material difference to our business". As a result, the league office might owe around US$10 million, but is no longer required to disclose the salaries of its executive officers.

CountDeMoney


alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2016, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 02, 2016, 09:49:08 PM
The NFL is also an ostensible non profit.  :P

A man in your situation should not be splitting hairs.  :P

My situation has considerably improved. :P
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Savonarola

In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

lustindarkness

An all drug Olympics could be fun to watch, but they need to be extreme. Like hearts exploding and bleeding out at the finish line extreme.
Grand Duke of Lurkdom