Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Sheilbh]

Labour briefing that they have lost to the Greens so we shall see.

No idea if this will play out but one journalist says people he's been speaking to at the count are reporting that the Greens look like they've significantly outperformed Labour in areas where it's a Labour-Green fight, while Reform have outperformed where it's a Reform-Labour fight. So possibly the worst of both worlds for Labour.

But also really, really impressive turnout for this seat (which is relatively low turnout) - it's basically the same as at the general election which is unusual for a byelection (particularly in winter).

Edit: And Reform, who have no expectations management, are also briefing they've definitely beat Labour to second: "it's not even close". I think Greens first and Reform second plus a poor Labour performance is the nightmare for them.

I've mentioned before but the constituency is a bit of a weird mix. Basically a third is broadly white working class/Red Wall sort of area where there'd be a Reform-Labour fight, and the other two thirds include a lot of students from the university and also a large Muslim community. So it's a weird seat in a lot of ways but one that basically includes all of Labour's coalition - and it sounds like they've done poorly everywhere and with everyone

[garbon]

So did the Greens decide the Soviets were correct and that "Zionism is racism"?

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-green-zack-polanski-zionism-is-racism-motion/

[garbon]

I guess with Modi, the Greens sought prior Labour inspiration?

This popped up in discussions when I Google image searched the green image for more background.

[garbon]

The Starmer plan?

[HVC]

The Green Party? Jeez how screwed is the UK?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Ah, seems like submitting to the mosques has worked out then.