Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

Josquius

Anti democratic scum.
Seriously don't know how anyone with a straight face can support this.
On the bright side hopefully should galvanise some MPs into growing a spine and passing legislation to block no deal?
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Tamas

Johnson has confirmed that this indeed the plan.

Next week shall be interesting.

Tamas

QuoteThe Financial Times's Sebastian Payne is reporting that the government will call an election if MPs manage to pass a vote of no confidence next week.


Sebastian Payne

@SebastianEPayne
🚨 No.10 threatening an election 🚨

"If MPs pass a no confidence vote next week then we won't resign. We won't recommend another government, we'll dissolve parliament, call an election between November 1-5 and there'll be zero chance of Grieve legislation," says senior official.


Jesus F Christ

Maladict

That will make the EU much more likely to cooperate  :rolleyes:

Tamas

We will have euro-pound parity before September is out:


Richard Hakluyt

Fucking dictatorial charlatan.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas


Tamas

I think this is really serious. Especially with the apparent (although not confirmed) threat that upon losing a vote of confidence the government would refuse to resign and just would schedule an election for early November.


My "favourite" comment on the net has been a celebration of this because now the EU really has no choice but to budge, since no deal will be forced through and the EU cannot afford that, they have to give us a good deal.

Richard Hakluyt


Josquius

Quote from: Tamas on August 28, 2019, 06:27:09 AM
I think this is really serious. Especially with the apparent (although not confirmed) threat that upon losing a vote of confidence the government would refuse to resign and just would schedule an election for early November.


My "favourite" comment on the net has been a celebration of this because now the EU really has no choice but to budge, since no deal will be forced through and the EU cannot afford that, they have to give us a good deal.
Its really reached peak Trumpyness
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Tamas

Quote from: Tyr on August 28, 2019, 06:57:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 28, 2019, 06:27:09 AM
I think this is really serious. Especially with the apparent (although not confirmed) threat that upon losing a vote of confidence the government would refuse to resign and just would schedule an election for early November.


My "favourite" comment on the net has been a celebration of this because now the EU really has no choice but to budge, since no deal will be forced through and the EU cannot afford that, they have to give us a good deal.
Its really reached peak Trumpyness

In terms of political actions, Trump hasn't even got close to what the Johnson government is attempting to pull off here.

Richard Hakluyt

I think this article covers Johnson's plan fairly accurately :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/boris-johnson-election-prorogue-parliament-populist-majority

The prorogation is early but not early enough to prevent a parliamentary kickback. If Johnson and the tories can get 35% of the vote in the upcoming general election that could convert into a landside majority for them (due to fptp and the disunity of the opposition).

Tamas

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 28, 2019, 07:09:10 AM
I think this article covers Johnson's plan fairly accurately :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/boris-johnson-election-prorogue-parliament-populist-majority

The prorogation is early but not early enough to prevent a parliamentary kickback. If Johnson and the tories can get 35% of the vote in the upcoming general election that could convert into a landside majority for them (due to fptp and the disunity of the opposition).

Good point, I guess. Imagine his cabinet and that Cummings fellow especially, having reins of the country until end of 2024, AND after a no deal crushout.

garbon

A protest has now been called for this evening.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.