Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Josquius]

I think this article covers Johnson's plan fairly accurately :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/boris-johnson-election-prorogue-parliament-populist-majority

The prorogation is early but not early enough to prevent a parliamentary kickback. If Johnson and the tories can get 35% of the vote in the upcoming general election that could convert into a landside majority for them (due to fptp and the disunity of the opposition).

We really have to hope Farage inc. run.

Even if the opposition were united I don't see what they could do that would work. They can't guarantee that everyone that would have voted for them will instead vote for the chosen alliance party in their seat. You would see a lot of backlash between would-be lib dem/labour supporters asked to vote for the other. Especially with the stupider more leave leaning labour voters (which are a minority but a large one)

[Richard Hakluyt]

I am coming to the conclusion that in an the age of the internet, facebook and twitter, liberal democracy has become untenable 

[Razgovory]

Is this serious?  What the fuck is going on over there?

[Saladin]

I am coming to the conclusion that in an the age of the internet, facebook and twitter, liberal democracy has become untenable 

Harrumph harrumph!

[Legbiter]

What is the established precedent for proroguing Parliament? Is it more because of the fraught timing or is this some novelty?

[Richard Hakluyt]

It is the timing; the place would normally be prorogued a few days later that what il Duce is proposing.

[Tamas]

The Queen has given her consent. 

[Saladin]

The Queen has given her consent. 

I don't see what else she could do.

[syk]

I don't see what else she could do.

Surprise the crap out of the world: Say no, call that windbag names and abdicate.

[Tamas]

The Queen has given her consent. 

I don't see what else she could do.

She has just agreed to send Parliament home for FIVE WEEKS during quite possibly the most critical period of British history since the Suez Crisis, or even WW2.

She either agrees with the goal of this action, namely to remove Parliament as the sovereign entity to make the critical decisions that need to be made, or she is an uninterested figurehead with far less power than any heads of states I can think of.

[celedhring]

Figurehead monarchs are WAD.

I'm not an expert on UK's constitutional arrangements but if our king did anything else other than rubber-stamp everything that comes out from the Government that needs his signature, it would generate a constitutional crisis.

So I'm not sure Liz had any other option here.

[frunk]

Parliament still has the option of a no confidence vote, so they aren't completely powerless.  Johnson is daring them to make him the shortest serving PM.

[Iormlund]

Time to break open the emergency popcorn stash!

[Tamas]

Parliament still has the option of a no confidence vote, so they aren't completely powerless.  Johnson is daring them to make him the shortest serving PM.

Allegedly No.10's plan for that is to NOT resign but call an election for first week of November instead.

[Valmy]

Parliament still has the option of a no confidence vote, so they aren't completely powerless.  Johnson is daring them to make him the shortest serving PM.

Allegedly No.10's plan for that is to NOT resign but call an election for first week of November instead.

So much for the democratic will of the British people.

Anyway the situation in Britain makes me feel relieved we only have Donald Trump.