Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

crazy canuck

Remind me, how much longer before the Tories must go to the polls?

The Larch

Quote from: crazy canuck on September 29, 2022, 12:31:11 PMRemind me, how much longer before the Tories must go to the polls?

I believe there are still a couple of years left in the current term.

Zanza

The Tories are now blaming a potential future Labour government for their woes.  :lmfao:

Jacob

Quote from: Zanza on September 29, 2022, 01:28:14 PMThe Tories are now blaming a potential future Labour government for their woes.  :lmfao:

Saw the thing where some Tory peer said the markets were diving not due Truss and Kwarteng's policies, but out of fear of a future Starmer government. Pretty incredible.

FunkMonk

Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Zanza on September 29, 2022, 01:28:14 PMThe Tories are now blaming a potential future Labour government for their woes.  :lmfao:

Saw the thing where some Tory peer said the markets were diving not due Truss and Kwarteng's policies, but out of fear of a future Starmer government. Pretty incredible.

That's some incredible copium right there  :lol:
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The Larch

It was Daniel "Brexit will improve the UK's relations with our neighbours" Hannan who wrote that drivel? You could have started with that.  :lol:

PJL

Had a quick look at the comments there and no-one is defending him. This is Conservative Home BTW, a staunchly Tory website. Quite incredible.

The Larch

QuoteI can't be bothered to explain all over again why trickle-down is a myth, an absurd Leftist caricature of what Rightists are supposed to believe, a conspiracy theory as outlandish, after its fashion, as QAnon.

 :lmfao:  :lmfao:  :lmfao:  :lmfao:  :lmfao:

Tamas

This doesn't exactly scream confidence in their own plan. Truss and Kwarteng met this budget-overseer non-authority the OBR and:

QuoteTreasury will not publish OBR forecast delivered to them on 7 October until 23 November
The Treasury said that Liz Truss, Kwasi Kwarteng and the OBR discussed the "economic and fiscal outlook" as well as the process for growth forecasts.

However, they said the forecast – which they will receive on 7 October – won't be published until 23 November. The government also said it "values" the OBR's scrutiny.

Gups

Weirdly the run on the pound has reversed and its now up to where it was before the mini-budget. Not really sure why though.

Richard Hakluyt

My guess is that it is now expected that the Bank of England will increase interest rates higher and faster.

Valmy

Quote from: FunkMonk on September 29, 2022, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Zanza on September 29, 2022, 01:28:14 PMThe Tories are now blaming a potential future Labour government for their woes.  :lmfao:

Saw the thing where some Tory peer said the markets were diving not due Truss and Kwarteng's policies, but out of fear of a future Starmer government. Pretty incredible.

That's some incredible copium right there  :lol:

We are doing so terribly that the markets are already responding to our 2025 Electoral defeat!
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viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

More seriously, it seems nurses are underpaid by NHS, so they quit their job for... pubs.

NHS nurses not eating at work in order to feed their children, survey finds


QuoteLack of money in NHS means some staff are quitting to take better paid jobs in pubs and shops

Some nurses are so hard up that they are having to not eat at work in order to feed and clothe their children, research among hospital bosses has found.

Lack of money is also prompting some NHS staff to call in sick in the days before they get paid because they can no longer afford the travel costs for their shift. Others are taking a second job outside the NHS in an effort to make ends meet.

The impact of the cost of living crisis on health service workers in England has emerged in a survey of chief executives, chairs and other senior figures in health trusts undertaken by NHS Providers, which represents trusts.
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Miriam Deakin, the director of policy and strategy at NHS Providers, said: "There are heart-rending stories of nurses choosing between eating during the day and being able to buy a school uniform for their children at home.

"Increasing numbers of nurses and other staff, particularly in the lower pay bands, are finding they are unable to afford to work in the NHS."

More than a quarter (27%) of trusts already operate food banks for staff, and another 19% plan to open one, to help relieve the acute financial difficulties faced by staff.

The survey also found that some staff:

    Are stopping contributing to their NHS pension in order to free up cash.

    Cannot fill up their cars because of petrol price rises.

    Have mental health issues due to the stress of paying their bills.

The situation is so serious that some low-paid health staff, such as healthcare assistants, are quitting their jobs in the NHS and taking better-paid roles in pubs and shops instead, NHS chiefs said.

Two-thirds (68%) of trusts said that staff leaving for better terms and conditions elsewhere was having a "significant or severe impact", and exacerbating existing recruitment and retention problems.

Deakin said: "Trust leaders are seeing a slowdown in people willing to join the NHS, as well as looking to join other industries such as hospitality or retail which offer more competitive pay. The sad fact is some can earn more working for online retailers or in supermarkets.

"It's like the UK has gone back to Victorian times, when workers were so poor they couldn't afford to feed their families," said Sara Gorton, head of health at the union Unison.

"This is a shocking state of affairs. Ministers should be ashamed that things have come to this."

The Guardian reported last month how trusts are trying to help staff cope with soaring inflation through a variety of schemes, including offering hardship grants, paying for children's school uniforms and providing low-cost food in their restaurants.

Trusts are bracing themselves for a potential wave of strikes this winter by staff angry at the government offering them only a 3% pay rise at a time when inflation is about 10%. One trust boss said that possible coordination of walkouts by different groups of workers could make it difficult for normal services to be maintained.

NHS Providers also found cost of living pressures were affecting patients, with more people attending A&E with related mental health issues. Some patients who had to visit hospital regularly had started to only attend some appointments because of the travel costs involved.

A government spokesperson said: "We know NHS staff are struggling with cost of living pressures, and we have given over 1 million NHS staff a pay rise of at least £1,400 in line with the recommendations of the independent pay review body.

"The government has also taken action to save a typical household an average of £1,000 a year on energy bills through a new 'energy price guarantee' – protecting them from soaring energy costs."
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.