NCAA Football, 2016

[MadBurgerMaker]

Oh, yeah.  Remember, the conference I follow has used grants of rights for decades, now.  It's always fun to watch n00bs to a topic claim to be the experts, and go berserk when their "expertise" is challenged.

Did you ever realize that a grant of rights is a contract?

No one claimed to be an expert in anything there. You were just busy talking out your ass, then refusing to admit you were wrong after your hurried Google search.  If you like, I can go ahead and post your quotes when I get back to my office.

Actually, since you have decided, once again, to try to spin that, and in the interest of just ending this before it even gets started:

A summary from the last time you tried to act like you said something else:

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9557.msg638776.html#msg638776

The money shot where you compared a GOR to a regular TV deal:

Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems.  Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.

Blahblahblah.  We're done.  Again.  I should really just save this stuff as an easily postable text document for when you decide to try to spin your way out of it every other year or so.  Maybe if I get bored enough.  Hm.

[grumbler]

Oh, yeah.  Remember, the conference I follow has used grants of rights for decades, now.  It's always fun to watch n00bs to a topic claim to be the experts, and go berserk when their "expertise" is challenged.

Did you ever realize that a grant of rights is a contract?

No one claimed to be an expert in anything there. You were just busy talking out your ass, then refusing to admit you were wrong after your hurried Google search.  If you like, I can go ahead and post your quotes when I get back to my office.

So, you don't accept that the GOR is a contract?  Can't help you, then, if you refuse to understand the most fundamental concept behind a GOR.  Google could help you, there.

Actually, since you have decided, once again, to try to spin that, and in the interest of just ending this before it even gets started:

A summary from the last time you tried to act like you said something else:

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9557.msg638776.html#msg638776

The money shot where you compared a GOR to a regular TV deal:

Dunno why you are so butthurt about the Big 12's problems.  Yeah, they just signed a TV deal, but they had a TV deal when they lost 1/3 of their membership. You can feel free to argue that the Big 12 looks as stable for the future as the ACC, but don't expect everyone to buy it.

Blahblahblah.  We're done.  Again.  I should really just save this stuff as an easily postable text document for when you decide to try to spin your way out of it every other year or so.  Maybe if I get bored enough.  Hm.

Well, if you understood that a GOR is a contract, and a TV deal is a contract, you can see that they are, in fact, both contracts.  Since you insist that a GOR is magically something other than a contract, there isn't a whole lot to add, other than to note, once again, that you are getting hysterical over something that is just a matter of business.

And it still isn't true that as you asserted in the thread you linked, if a school that leaves a conference with a GOR,

...they would lose the rights to their TV $$ for the length of the GoR...

.  Such a departure would just be a breach of contract, as I said at the time this came up.  That's where we disagree.

[MadBurgerMaker]

If you want to start trying to grumbler it up again, instead of posting here just re-read everything that was already said so you're only wasting your own time.  There's a link right there for you.  It's good that you've done some more research into it though!  Kind of a bummer you didn't know about it when you first spouted off, right? 



E:  Anyhow, Valmy did you watch the press conference?  Charlie talking about evaluating the coaching staff over the next two weeks?

[Valmy]

E:  Anyhow, Valmy did you watch the press conference?  Charlie talking about evaluating the coaching staff over the next two weeks?

That was a little concerning to me. He seemed a little out of touch with his team to be that surprised by their sucking.

But there are a few consistently shitty defensive backs who have been responsible for defensive ineptitude for the past three years. It might be time to give somebody else a shot.

[MadBurgerMaker]

That was a little concerning to me. He seemed a little out of touch with his team to be that surprised by their sucking.

But there are a few consistently shitty defensive backs who have been responsible for defensive ineptitude for the past three years. It might be time to give somebody else a shot.

It feels like if the D could just improve to the "wet paper bag" level, the team would have a good chance to win a good number of games.  Not crazy person talk like a playoff spot, but respectable enough to get them through the rest of the season. 

[Valmy]

That was a little concerning to me. He seemed a little out of touch with his team to be that surprised by their sucking.

But there are a few consistently shitty defensive backs who have been responsible for defensive ineptitude for the past three years. It might be time to give somebody else a shot.

It feels like if the D could just improve to the "wet paper bag" level, the team would have a good chance to win a good number of games.  Not crazy person talk like a playoff spot, but respectable enough to get them through the rest of the season. 

Yeah some nut on Shaggy was whining that the refs weird call on the goal line fumble Saturday night (Sunday morning? ) cost Texas a chance at a playoff spot

Anyway the D is getting better. The linebackers and D-Line are much improved. Just need to figure out what can be done about the defensive backs.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Yeah some nut on Shaggy was whining that the refs weird call on the goal line fumble Saturday night (Sunday morning? ) cost Texas a chance at a playoff spot

Anyway the D is getting better. The linebackers and D-Line are much improved. Just need to figure out what can be done about the defensive backs.

  I try to avoid the football board after a loss.  Gets juuuuuust a little crazy there. 

Speaking of the linebackers, I about passed out when Jefferson got hurt.  The DBs really just seem...confused....sometimes.  I mean even when they're not just leaving WRs completely alone.

[Valmy]

That 9:30 PM kickoff was horrible btw. Forget I ever supported that PAC 16 scheme.

[MadBurgerMaker]

That 9:30 PM kickoff was horrible btw. Forget I ever supported that PAC 16 scheme.

Yeah, that was pretty bad.  I really like the PAC schools and most of the locations and all that, but that time zone is just no good for us. 

[grumbler]

If you want to start trying to grumbler it up again, instead of posting here just re-read everything that was already said so you're only wasting your own time.  There's a link right there for you.  It's good that you've done some more research into it though!  Kind of a bummer you didn't know about it when you first spouted off, right? 

Watching you weasel isn't as much fun as watching you completely lose your shit, but has its own pleasures.  I think anyone reading that thread and this understands that my understanding of the situation regarding GORs (that they are just contracts, not irrevocable "pacts of iron") is the correct one, and always has been.

[grumbler]

That 9:30 PM kickoff was horrible btw. Forget I ever supported that PAC 16 scheme.

Yeah, that made sense from Cal's standpoint but, as a national game, running into the early morning, it was a bad idea.  The later time didn't even lead to a sellout (there were still some 13,000 unsold tickets).

[MadBurgerMaker]

Watching you weasel isn't as much fun as watching you completely lose your shit, but has its own pleasures.  I think anyone reading that thread and this understands that my understanding of the situation regarding GORs (that they are just contracts, not irrevocable "pacts of iron") is the correct one, and always has been.

There is no weaseling from me (I actually haven't said anything new at all, you seem to be typing a lot though, with a lot of accusations of various things included), and no one is losing their shit, nor have they.  Exactly what was said can be seen, including your actual statement, people who were not agreeing with you, whatever you're calling going berserk or crazy, and don't forget the zero claims of expertise.  It's all there.

E:  Just in case you missed it in whatever argument you're trying to make here, the summary can be seen here:  http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9557.msg638776.html#msg638776   You should check it out.

[grumbler]

Here's a stat I like, even if it is misleading:  Michigan has allowed only four third down conversions in three games so far.  That's best in the country, percentage-wise.

Now, that doesn't mean they've given up the fewest first downs; they are actually very mediocre in that department, giving up 15.3 per game, compared to leading Florida's 9.  it is just that opponents don't need to get to third down almost half the time!

Gotta love stats.

[alfred russel]

So the question is, who performed worse in the first half of the Georgia Tech - Clemson game: me, or Georgia Tech?

I went with a girl, who ditched me and left the game with 6 minutes to go in the first half. I ended up watching the rest of the game by myself.

Georgia Tech went into the half having been outgained by Clemson 347 - 22.

[Eddie Teach]

Was she a Georgia Tech fan?