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[Ed Anger]

Somebody is bringing on the heartbreak.

[sbr]

Clearly they were the best hair metal band which is why people don't like to call them one.

You'd also have to rule out Def Leppard to call motley crue the top band.

Wat? 

I am definitely biased, so there is a chance that Motley Crue is not the best in whatever category we are talking about, but to compare them to Def Leppard is laughable no matter what you are talking about.  Unless it is best bands with 1 armed drummers.  I'll give you that.

Def Leppard was a cute band with some very commercially successful stuff but Motley Crue was better in every sense of the word when it comes to '80s hair/metal bands.  If it is about individual songs you would need to count pretty high to get to the first Def Leppard song on the list; every Crue album from Too Fast for Love to Dr. Feelgood was better than anything DL put out; the Crue was (for good or bad) more of everything that scene and era was about.

I never saw Def Leppard live but from what I have heard I would take a Crue show (I've seen then at least 5 times but I am getting old so it may be more) over them without even hesitating.

[sbr]

Dammit now instead of going to bed I'm stuck listening to Motley Crue's collected works. 

[sbr]

And fuck you to who ever disparaged Ratt. 

[viper37]

Clearly they were the best hair metal band which is why people don't like to call them one.

You'd also have to rule out Def Leppard to call motley crue the top band.

Wat? 

I am definitely biased, so there is a chance that Motley Crue is not the best in whatever category we are talking about, but to compare them to Def Leppard is laughable no matter what you are talking about.  Unless it is best bands with 1 armed drummers.  I'll give you that.

Def Leppard was a cute band with some very commercially successful stuff but Motley Crue was better in every sense of the word when it comes to '80s hair/metal bands.  If it is about individual songs you would need to count pretty high to get to the first Def Leppard song on the list; every Crue album from Too Fast for Love to Dr. Feelgood was better than anything DL put out; the Crue was (for good or bad) more of everything that scene and era was about.

I never saw Def Leppard live but from what I have heard I would take a Crue show (I've seen then at least 5 times but I am getting old so it may be more) over them without even hesitating.

Def Leppard was pretty good from Pyromania and on, but originality wasn't their strongest point.

Motley Crue was good and managed to differentiate some of their album.

I don't know wich one I'd rate the best.  I've seen Crue in show, Tomy Leed is certainly a showman, but the others were your run of the mill hairband.  Better than Bon Jovi live, much, much worst than Metallica (best band I've seen on show despite Rammstein's technical superiority).

[viper37]

And fuck you to who ever disparaged Ratt. 

chill man   Listen to some boring, run of the mill hair metal and relax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLS_W_2eyzY

[Eddie Teach]

Can we at least agree that GNR was better than every band Duque mentioned?

[Savonarola]

Guys I was mostly just amazed something could become popular, suffer push back, and quickly become an inside joke in just a few hours than the stupid facebook game itself

I mean geez it took Disco years to do that.

And now we're discussing Mötley Crüe.  Thanks a lot Valmy.   

[dps]

Can we at least agree that GNR was better than every band Duque mentioned?

Yeah, easily, at least at their best.  That's why people are objecting to me classifying them as a hair band--they were just so much better than the other late 80s/early 90s hair bands.  They were what those other bands wanted to be.

[Duque de Bragança]

Can we at least agree that GNR was better than every band Duque mentioned?

Depends if we take into account the current state of Guns 'N Roses. 
Despite taking pride in decadence, Mötley Crüe has not degenerated to such a low point yet. 

We are are getting into metal semantics but I view Def Leppard, AOR (album-oriented rock) or arena rock describes them better than glam/hair metal. Some glam influences? Sure, it was the '80s after all.
Def Leppard was also seen as part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, famous for Iron Maiden or Judas Priest, so make of that what you will.
Guns 'N Roses? Hard rock, close to heavy metal but not exactly the same.

[viper37]

Def was heavier in their first albums, I think.  But not that good compared to other metal bands.

[mongers]

Can we at least agree that GNR was better than every band Duque mentioned?

Depends if we take into account the current state of Guns 'N Roses. 
Despite taking pride in decadence, Mötley Crüe has not degenerated to such a low point yet. 

Were are getting into metal semantics but I view Def Leppard, AOR (album-oriented rock) or arena rock describes them better than glam/hair metal. Some glam influences? Sure, it was the '80s after all.
Def Leppard was also seen as part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, famous for Iron Maiden or Judas Priest, so make of that what you will.
Guns 'N Roses? Hard rock, close to heavy metal but not exactly the same.

Yeah, I'd have put them in NWOBM, if only for the timing and they were sort of that at the start. But they did hedge into AOR after a while.

For what it's worth I think Saxon are the true, best embodiment of that movement/genre. 

[CountDeMoney]

In 1983, it was Def Leppard's Pyromania that kept hard rock at the top of the MTV rotation, when it was drowning in Michael Jacksonian squalor; they were one of the hard rock bands that intentionally edged itself into MTV.  They weren't showing a whole lot of Dio or Ozzy, you know.

I despised Def Leppard's subsequent bullshit--particularly the album that never ended, Hysteria--but the Pyromania album was great, and perfect for 1983.

[Duque de Bragança]

Yeah, I'd have put them in NWOBM, if only for the timing and they were sort of that at the start. But they didn't hedge into AOR after a while.

Exactly, the NWOBHM started before the glam metal era, so by the latter era, they were mostly known for AOR.

For what it's worth I think Saxon are the true, best embodiment of that movement/genre. 

A matter of taste, but that's fine by me.

[mongers]

In 1983, it was Def Leppard's Pyromania that kept hard rock at the top of the MTV rotation, when it was drowning in Michael Jacksonian squalor; they were one of the hard rock bands that intentionally edged itself into MTV.  They weren't showing a whole lot of Dio or Ozzy, you know.

I despised Def Leppard's subsequent bullshit--particularly the album that never ended, Hysteria--but the Pyromania album was great, and perfect for 1983.

Yeah, I wasn't dissing them, that album was great for what is was and as you say it's time. But I think some of the other albums from the era have stood the test of time better.

Incidentally, shouldn't we have some for of poll for bands/videos that appeared on MTV, to mark the passing of that golden era and explain to the younguns here what it was about?