Gun control in the US: what can be done?

[mongers]

I keep being told that nobody wants to take my guns.  Guess I can rest easy now.

Oh. I thought you were being reassured that nobody is going to take them from you.

So what you're looking for is that nobody even desires to limit your gun-ownership, rather than merely preventing that limits are placed on owning guns?

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

Phew, glad you dodged that giant, hulking strawman as it bestrode the intellectual landscape.

[The Minsky Moment]

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

With that level of psychological fragility, I can understand why you "cling" to your guns.   

[Valmy]

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

I have heard people say they want to nuke the Middle East so I guess everybody should spend all their time worrying about the imminent nuclear winter as well? Come on man don't be a nutcase.

[Grey Fox]

I keep being told that nobody wants to take my guns.  Guess I can rest easy now.

Oh. I thought you were being reassured that nobody is going to take them from you.

So what you're looking for is that nobody even desires to limit your gun-ownership, rather than merely preventing that limits are placed on owning guns?

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

I want to take away your guns.
Cops shouldn't have guns.

[Siege]

Either amend the Constitution or require a person submit to psychological testing prior to purchase.

Why?
If the government wants to maintain a list of crazy people who cannot buy guns, that's their problem.
But i ain't going to submit to no test. Hell no.

Besides, what is there to stop the government from adding dissidents, like tea partiers, to the crazy people list?
Hell no.
Uncuntstitutional.

[Siege]

Every place in America with strong gun control laws is crime ridden, while every place in America with strong gun rights is crime free.

You liberal faggots don't want to see reality.
Don't let facts get in the way of your ideology.

[viper37]

Every place in America with strong gun control laws is crime ridden, while every place in America with strong gun rights is crime free.

Give me the evolution of crime over 50 years in all US states, and correlate that info with the time less/more restrictive gun laws happenned.
I'm guessing it didn't make much of a difference.

[Valmy]

Every place in America with strong gun control laws is crime ridden, while every place in America with strong gun rights is crime free.

You liberal faggots don't want to see reality.
Don't let facts get in the way of your ideology.

Do you want to provide the facts? I was not aware we had that many places with no crime at all.

[Valmy]

Either amend the Constitution or require a person submit to psychological testing prior to purchase.

Why?
If the government wants to maintain a list of crazy people who cannot buy guns, that's their problem.
But i ain't going to submit to no test. Hell no.

Besides, what is there to stop the government from adding dissidents, like tea partiers, to the crazy people list?
Hell no.
Uncuntstitutional.

I think Yi was saying what was possible under the law dude. Chill.

My whole point is there is not a whole lot the Feds can do that would hold up in court.

[Razgovory]

Every place in America with strong gun control laws is crime ridden, while every place in America with strong gun rights is crime free.

You liberal faggots don't want to see reality.
Don't let facts get in the way of your ideology.

Try Hawaii.  Hawaii is a good example because you can't just jump the state border to buy a gun in another state.  It has a strict gun laws and low gun crime rate.

[lustindarkness]

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

I have heard people say they want to nuke the Middle East so I guess everybody should spend all their time worrying about the imminent nuclear winter as well? Come on man don't be a nutcase.

Thank you for considering me people.

[Admiral Yi]

Why?

So that crazy people can't shoot up theaters and schools.

Besides, what is there to stop the government from adding dissidents, like tea partiers, to the crazy people list?

Elections.  Rule of law.  Court review.  All the things that stop the government right now from doing anything they want.

[Jacob]

Well with all this gun control talk I could swear I've heard mentions of confiscation and whatnot.  Pretty sure I heard some anti-gun folks say the cops should be the only ones with guns.  But now to hear that nobody wants to take away my guns, I guess I can put all that to rest and put my full trust in gun control people.

I guess I failed to make my point clearly enough, which was that plenty of people want to take away your guns. However, they're not going to take away your guns, however much they want to.

Your requirement for resting easy that no one wants to take away your guns is a pretty high bar to meet. So it follows that you will never rest easy

[Josquius]

Every place in America with strong gun control laws is crime ridden, while every place in America with strong gun rights is crime free.

You liberal faggots don't want to see reality.
Don't let facts get in the way of your ideology.

There's more to crime rates than gun laws. Population density tends to be a biggy.
I wonder; how does the crime rate in these areas compare to before their tighter gun control laws?

[MadImmortalMan]

I wonder; how does the crime rate in these areas compare to before their tighter gun control laws?

You mean back where there was also less population?