Gun control in the US: what can be done?

[frunk]

[Singing]
My whole family are gunless twats
Most of my friends are gunless twats
Many of my neighbors are gunless twats
I'm living in a gunless twat world!
[/Singing]

[garbon]

I say, let's make it public so I can know who's a gunless twat who wants their house burglarized.

I don't have a gun Scipio.

At least now I know who to send the cops after once you rob me. Just a warning though my stuff is neither easily portable nor particularly valuable.

Maybe one is only a twat if they live in MS without a gun? Though I think I'd want to have my own personal army before I'd move to MS.

[Eddie Teach]

Call me a transphobe if you must, but I prefer twats to be gunless.

[Brazen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't constitutional rights then refined by national and state law? Because every person here has the right to bear arms in their own country. But only certain types of weapons and only after a rigorous screening process. 

In the UK we did have a mass killing; the Dunblane school massacre in 1996. We banned effectively banned handguns afterwards. There has been one spree killing since; the Cumbria shootings in June 2010, which were carried out with a shotgun.

I'm not sure if it was ever relaxed for sport, but the ban on handguns was so stringent even the Team GB Olympic pistol team had to go to Zurich to practice ahead of the 2012 games.

[Admiral Yi]

The Supreme Court's history is replete with examples of fucking state law in the ass: Civil Rights, abortion, capital punishment.

[Valmy]

The Supreme Court's history is replete with examples of fucking state law in the ass: Civil Rights, abortion, capital punishment.

Sometimes state law deserves it.

[Admiral Yi]

Sometimes state law deserves it.

Absolutely.  I was responding to Brazen's question about the relationship between the Constitution and state law.

[MadImmortalMan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't constitutional rights then refined by national and state law? Because every person here has the right to bear arms in their own country. But only certain types of weapons and only after a rigorous screening process. 

In the UK we did have a mass killing; the Dunblane school massacre in 1996. We banned effectively banned handguns afterwards. There has been one spree killing since; the Cumbria shootings in June 2010, which were carried out with a shotgun.

I'm not sure if it was ever relaxed for sport, but the ban on handguns was so stringent even the Team GB Olympic pistol team had to go to Zurich to practice ahead of the 2012 games.

You guys just had one a few days ago. With a knife.

[Brazen]

You guys just had one a few days ago. With a knife.

"One" what? Are you talking about Leytonstone? One nutcase with a craft knife that doesn't even register as a weapon (though you do have to show ID to buy one). It wasn't even a killing, let alone a mass killing, no-one died. And it's only speculation that it was terror related as people who knew the perpetrator say he had a history of mental health issues.

[garbon]

Some might say mental health issues don't preclude you from being a terrorist...

[Iormlund]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

Wouldn't that make very easy for criminals to procure weapons?

[MadImmortalMan]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

Wouldn't that make very easy for criminals to procure weapons?

It would make millions of people instant criminals. So in a sense, yes. 

[Razgovory]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

Wouldn't that make very easy for criminals to procure weapons?

Uh, why would it do that.

[Iormlund]

Well it seems a great way to pinpoint which homes to hit if you are interested in using or selling weapons.

[MadImmortalMan]

Well it seems a great way to pinpoint which homes to hit if you are interested in using or selling weapons.

Public databases are always a terrible idea. They're so convenient for people with grudges, and they aren't made for the kind of people who don't tend to be subject to grudges. Felons, sex offenders, gun owners, cops, judges, political contributors, prosecutors, legislators, gays, teachers, whatever. Put them on a list and there will be somebody who will use it for evil.