Gun control in the US: what can be done?

[Scipio]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

All non-classified government databases are public.

But the feds forcing registration of weapons would violate the 2d Amendment.

States can have gun registries, and many do.

[viper37]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

isn't that against the Constitution and its current interpretation?

Also, can a Supreme Court judgement on the Constitution can be reversed after some years, or is stuck in time for the next 200 years?

[Valmy]

My understanding is that under current interpretation of law the Feds can do very little. Which puzzles me why the conservatives freak out about Obama and all his gun control schemes. I am not aware of any gun control schemes and even if he did have some surely they would have to be actual laws passed in Congress, not Executive Orders.

But the gun issue has zero to do with anything other than driving partisan donations. Both party's partisan hacks are going nuts about it. I guess eventually blue states will have very strict gun laws and red states will be Mad Max with all the hysteria going on. Should be fun.

[Razgovory]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

All non-classified government databases are public.

But the feds forcing registration of weapons would violate the 2d Amendment.

States can have gun registries, and many do.

How would that violate the 2nd amendment?

[frunk]

How would that violate the 2nd amendment?

They key to a well regulated militia is the lack of regulation.

[lustindarkness]

My understanding is that under current interpretation of law the Feds can do very little. Which puzzles me why the conservatives freak out about Obama and all his gun control schemes. I am not aware of any gun control schemes and even if he did have some surely they would have to be actual laws passed in Congress, not Executive Orders.

But the gun issue has zero to do with anything other than driving partisan donations. Both party's partisan hacks are going nuts about it. I guess eventually blue states will have very strict gun laws and red states will be Mad Max with all the hysteria going on. Should be fun.

Can I have big metal spikes on my truck?! 

[Valmy]

Can I have big metal spikes on my truck?! 

Of course. With a giant Confederate Flag.

[lustindarkness]

Can I have big metal spikes on my truck?! 

Of course. With a giant Confederate Flag.

You ruined it, It will be hard enough to see with my blood bag chained to the front of the truck already, now you want me to add a giant flag? Can it be a small one at least?

[viper37]

My understanding is that under current interpretation of law the Feds can do very little. Which puzzles me why the conservatives freak out about Obama and all his gun control schemes. I am not aware of any gun control schemes and even if he did have some surely they would have to be actual laws passed in Congress, not Executive Orders.

But the gun issue has zero to do with anything other than driving partisan donations. Both party's partisan hacks are going nuts about it. I guess eventually blue states will have very strict gun laws and red states will be Mad Max with all the hysteria going on. Should be fun.

once Pennsylvania realizes its mass shootings comes from deranged Virginia citizens that have easy access to weapons, will they build a fence to protect themselves?

[Valmy]

once Pennsylvania realizes its mass shootings comes from deranged Virginia citizens that have easy access to weapons, will they build a fence to protect themselves?

As far as I know shooters have not crossed state lines yet. More likely shooters in Pennsylvania will be buying them in Virginia or whatever.

[Josquius]

Mass shooters aren't crossing state lines. But aren't most of the regular criminals in DC using  guns from elsewhere? 

Would be interesting to see if gun control works better in a decent sized state rather than just a city.  Hate the way gun nuts completely fail to see logic and use gun crime in cities as proof gun control doesn't work

[dps]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

All non-classified government databases are public.

But the feds forcing registration of weapons would violate the 2d Amendment.

States can have gun registries, and many do.

How would that violate the 2nd amendment?

No idea, and I tend to be more in favor of gun rights than most people here.

[Scipio]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

All non-classified government databases are public.

But the feds forcing registration of weapons would violate the 2d Amendment.

States can have gun registries, and many do.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The militia is a creature of the states; they are the ones who regulate it. Not the feds. I could bore you with a copy of each state's militia statute, but I suggest you read United States v. Miller to understand how non-radical DC v. Heller was.

Here's a link, in case your Google broke: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174


How would that violate the 2nd amendment?

[Razgovory]

Force them to register the weapons with the government.  Make the database public like we have with sex offenders.

All non-classified government databases are public.

But the feds forcing registration of weapons would violate the 2d Amendment.

States can have gun registries, and many do.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The militia is a creature of the states; they are the ones who regulate it. Not the feds. I could bore you with a copy of each state's militia statute, but I suggest you read United States v. Miller to understand how non-radical DC v. Heller was.

Here's a link, in case your Google broke: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174


How would that violate the 2nd amendment?

None of this says there can't be a federal database.  I did some looking myself, there already are databases that come from the Gun Control Act of 1968 but this information is not open to the public.  Lets make it all public, and let every one know if they are living next a gun fanatic who could be building an arsenal to murder his neighbors.

[Eddie Teach]

I don't see why the public needs to know how many guns their neighbors own.