Shootings and explosions in Paris

[Grallon]

Just shut up Grallon, at least for one day.

Is the clamor of your guilty conscience troubling you already? 

Tell me, is this how you raise your children?  Teaching them that shutting their eyes and averting their faces will make the monster go away?

The elephant is in the room BB - all of you should stop pretending it isn't!


* Glad to see you Money



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[jimmy olsen]

Seeing a large casualty spread. Many websites say 120~ dead, just as many more say 150~

[mongers]

Alway find it odd, that the firemen seen in tonight news footage are actually part of the French army and trained as soldiers was well as first aiders.

[Josquius]

This shit ruined my night.
To be paris is just another foreign city. But so many people here have connections  and friends.there
Really Fucked up to have this kind of thing coming into real life.

[crazy canuck]

Just recently heard the news. 

[frunk]

My sister and her family are visiting Paris, just got word that they are fine.

[Ed Anger]

The next newscaster who calls the Eagles of Death Metal a heavy metal band will feel the full fury of my twins psychic powers.

[viper37]

I think you are underestimating how "civilian" a city like Paris is.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here?

Obviously only a fraction of a percent of the population are police, but given the size of the city that still adds up to thousands if not tens of thousands of officers .

I haven't followed the news on the intervention itself and live media reports are always chaotic, but, assuming there were 6 or 7 distinct attacks, that is 6 or 7 points where you need to gather your police force and even if there are tens of thousands of officers in Paris, they may not be all at work at this moment, they may be on the other side of the city, so it takes time gathering them all in this sector.  Plus, you need police officers to keep civilians at bay, you need some to watch airpots, train stations, any other target of value.

And then we get to the hostage situation.  So, I don't know if there was ever a real hostage situation that police believed in (I was watching an old Nordiques DVD with a friend, it seemed less depressing), but if they believed it was an hostage situation, certainly, they'd want to take measures to avoid civilian casualties.  Storming in unprepared is usually a bad idea, as the Russians have proven.

[viper37]

Much of the Arab muslim world is on fire hence what's happening, as a consequence the West

Depends on how you look at it.

and the surviving Arab governments need to start taking real measures to end the war in Syria, conquer IS in Iraq and Syria and extinquish the sources of radicalism in their state institutions and populations.

Basically, you wait for the impossible.

[mongers]

My sister and her family are visiting Paris, just got word that they are fine.

Good to hear that.

[Razgovory]

Just shut up Grallon, at least for one day.

Is the clamor of your guilty conscience troubling you already? 

Tell me, is this how you raise your children?  Teaching them that shutting their eyes and averting their faces will make the monster go away?

The elephant is in the room BB - all of you should stop pretending it isn't!


* Glad to see you Money



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Well, we have at least one person cheering because of the attack.

[viper37]

Hollande already showed up at the Bataclan and had a press conference to announce the state of emergency and other steps.
Two explosions were heard during the France-Germany football game by the audience at the Stade de France, and on TV as well it seems but nobody seems to have realised.

one of the player seemed to have heard it, but seeing that no one reacted, he kept playing.

[HisMajestyBOB]

The next newscaster who calls the Eagles of Death Metal a heavy metal band will feel the full fury of my twins psychic powers.

I'm assuming they're actually a death metal band?

[Ed Anger]

The next newscaster who calls the Eagles of Death Metal a heavy metal band will feel the full fury of my twins psychic powers.

I'm assuming they're actually a death metal band?

No.

[viper37]

Something like that, agreed. IMO the biggest push needs to come from Arab/Muslim governments, not the US/west. The west can help with supplies, equipment, etc. but Islam needs to take the lead in sorting this stuff out. If the west takes on much of it then it's seen as outsiders meddling and provides more impetus for radicals to take action.

on the other hand, most of them have no real incentive to act on their own.  AQ and ISIS are attacking us, mostly.  There's a few attacks over there, but I suspect they are of the same mentality as Assad: they can countain the threat by themselves and they have a bigger opponet: people calling for reforms.