Clinton's server had classified material beyond 'top secret'

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MadImmortalMan

Clinton didn't do anything that every single one of my baby boomer bosses didn't also do.

The government IT guys aren't stupid about security because they're zealous dumbasses. They focus on some things and ignore others because so much of the stuff they have to adhere to is written in law. So they spend all of the time they have available making sure there aren't any law violations, and there's no time left to make sure the systems are actually safe. The laws are written so specifically.

Having your password on a post-it isn't illegal. But the stupidly long and complicated password requirement is. So duh. Of course it actually makes it more likely to be breached. I've found many passwords during audits that way. But it doesn't matter. Senator Meet The Press can say they made the password requirements super-strict. It will play well as a sound byte, and when the good Senator gets back to the office, he'll have his assistant write his password down on a post-it.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 25, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
Clinton didn't do anything that every single one of my baby boomer bosses didn't also do.

Seriously?  Every single one of your baby boomer bosses maintained a private email server?

Alcibiades

Quote from: lustindarkness on January 25, 2016, 05:55:23 PM
Sup3rl#ngPassw0rd$suck@$$:(

Nice try, can't be a password you've used in the last 50 passwords.   :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Alcibiades on January 25, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 25, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 25, 2016, 12:07:22 AMOf course. And that shows an incredible lack of judgement.

I don't think it shows an incredible lack of judgment. if she did it as a workaround, it shows that she's willing to bend the rules to get something done in a (perceived) easier way. people can disagree on whether this is OK, but I don't have a problem with it. last semester as a board member, I pulled an "act first, seek forgiveness later" because waiting for board approval would have taken too long. some people just have a personality where they want to get shit done. this controversy doesn't prove anything about hillary's behavior (edit: re being irresponsible or any similar alleged huge personality flaw) or what she will do as president, because frankly after all this mess... she's definitely learned her lesson and won't pull it again.

You dont understand though, in the intelligence community this is absolutely NOT OK.  Especially after Snowden, the level of caution and care with handling classified information of any type is indescribable.  I cannot stress how much this is hammered into EVERY individual that handles classified information and the consequences of your actions if you even make a mistake.

Didn't Clinton leave department of state before snowden's shenanigans?

I know both happened in 2013 but she left in February, didn't she?

Alcibiades

Quote from: sbr on January 25, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 25, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 25, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 25, 2016, 12:07:22 AMOf course. And that shows an incredible lack of judgement.

I don't think it shows an incredible lack of judgment. if she did it as a workaround, it shows that she's willing to bend the rules to get something done in a (perceived) easier way. people can disagree on whether this is OK, but I don't have a problem with it. last semester as a board member, I pulled an "act first, seek forgiveness later" because waiting for board approval would have taken too long. some people just have a personality where they want to get shit done. this controversy doesn't prove anything about hillary's behavior (edit: re being irresponsible or any similar alleged huge personality flaw) or what she will do as president, because frankly after all this mess... she's definitely learned her lesson and won't pull it again.

You dont understand though, in the intelligence community this is absolutely NOT OK.  Especially after Snowden, the level of caution and care with handling classified information of any type is indescribable.  I cannot stress how much this is hammered into EVERY individual that handles classified information and the consequences of your actions if you even make a mistake.

Didn't Clinton leave department of state before snowden's shenanigans?

I know both happened in 2013 but she left in February, didn't she?

Sorry - I meant Bradley Manning.  I can't use flash drives any more.  :weep:
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 25, 2016, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 25, 2016, 05:32:31 PM
Clinton didn't do anything that every single one of my baby boomer bosses didn't also do.

Seriously?  Every single one of your baby boomer bosses maintained a private email server?

No. I maintained them. Obviously.  :lol:
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Quote from: Alcibiades on January 25, 2016, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 25, 2016, 05:55:23 PM
Sup3rl#ngPassw0rd$suck@$$:(

Nice try, can't be a password you've used in the last 50 passwords.   :rolleyes:

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Quote from: Alcibiades on January 25, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 25, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 25, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 25, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 25, 2016, 12:07:22 AMOf course. And that shows an incredible lack of judgement.

I don't think it shows an incredible lack of judgment. if she did it as a workaround, it shows that she's willing to bend the rules to get something done in a (perceived) easier way. people can disagree on whether this is OK, but I don't have a problem with it. last semester as a board member, I pulled an "act first, seek forgiveness later" because waiting for board approval would have taken too long. some people just have a personality where they want to get shit done. this controversy doesn't prove anything about hillary's behavior (edit: re being irresponsible or any similar alleged huge personality flaw) or what she will do as president, because frankly after all this mess... she's definitely learned her lesson and won't pull it again.

You dont understand though, in the intelligence community this is absolutely NOT OK.  Especially after Snowden, the level of caution and care with handling classified information of any type is indescribable.  I cannot stress how much this is hammered into EVERY individual that handles classified information and the consequences of your actions if you even make a mistake.

Didn't Clinton leave department of state before snowden's shenanigans?

I know both happened in 2013 but she left in February, didn't she?

Sorry - I meant Bradley Manning.

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The phone NSA wanted Hillary to use

Now, I kinda understand her.
A modified Blackberry was good enough for the President, but not good enough for the Secretary of State.
The phone had a cost of 4 700$ + 30 000$ for the server infrastructure.

And Republicans are giving her shit because she spared the tax payers some expenses?  Oh my! ;)
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 29, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
She.
She screams in silence.
A sullen riot penetrating through her mind.
Waiting for a sign
To smash the silence with the brick of self-control.

Are you locked up in a world
That's been planned out for you?
Are you feeling like a social tool without a use?
Scream at me until my ears bleed
I'm taking heed just for you

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Machine gun in her hand
She is good and she is bad
No one understands

She walked in in silence
Never spoke a word
She's got a rich daddy
She's her daddy's girl

She loves naked sin
He loves evil sex
She has lost control
They are growing old

She will hide in silence
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