Several injured in shooting on Amsterdam-Paris high-speed train

Started by Duque de Bragança, August 21, 2015, 02:36:16 PM

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Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.

A baronetcy is hereditary, which a knighthood is not.  Both are titles for nobles, as far as I know.
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A knighthood is most certainly not in the peerage though. Maybe I just do not know the legal definition of noble in today's UK. Hopefully the head of the College of Arms will see this thread and set me straight.
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Quote from: celedhring on August 26, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.

How does a Republic go about creating nobles?  :hmm:

Any Poles on the forum? Don't know how many they created.
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Quote from: The Brain on August 26, 2015, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 26, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:11:02 AM
I thought you had to get super-knighthood, a Baronetcy, in order to be considered nobility.

How does a Republic go about creating nobles?  :hmm:

Any Poles on the forum? Don't know how many they created.

It required a vote by the Sejm.

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
A knighthood is most certainly not in the peerage though. Maybe I just do not know the legal definition of noble in today's UK. Hopefully the head of the College of Arms will see this thread and set me straight.

Correct.  Knights (and baronets) are not members of the peerage.  Peers have land (at least in theory) that goes with the title.
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The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.
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Quote from: Syt on August 29, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.

Did he have a motive for choosing an international train? I mean, wouldn't commuter trains have more targets if one was inclined to look at passengers that way.
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 A higher profile target?  And terrorists love to kill tourists.  Commuters are boring (unless he could get to America maybe).

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Quote from: Tonitrus on August 30, 2015, 03:08:30 AM
A higher profile target?  And terrorists love to kill tourists.  Commuters are boring (unless he could get to America maybe).

Ahem, ahem, we beg to differ.


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Quote from: Syt on August 29, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
The EU interior ministers have agreed to tighten controls of passengers and luggage on railway stations and to introduce tickets with the name of the traveler on important routes. Additionally, the exchange of information about "dangerous individuals" is to be improved.

That sucks.

Maybe it's inevitable, but the uncontrolled nature of train travel in europe is a big part of what makes it tolerable.
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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Spencer-Stone-Stabbed-France-Train-Hero-331252422.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_NYBrand

QuoteFrench Train Hero Spencer Stone Stabbed

France train attack hero Spencer Stone was stabbed Wednesday night in Sacramento, California, and is in stable condition Thursday, the U.S. Air Force confirmed to NBC News.

Stone, 25, was one of three Americans who helped thwart a terror attack aboard a high-speed train bound for Paris in August.

CBS News first reported that he had been "repeatedly stabbed" on Wednesday.

"He is alive and in stable condition at this time," an Air Force spokesperson said. "We do not have any information as to the events preceding the incident."

Although a motive was not immediately known, a Sacramento police department spokeswoman told NBC News that a preliminary investigation indicates that Stone was not targeted. Rather, he got involved in some sort of verbal argument that ended up on the street which escalated into a physical confrontation.

"It appears it was happenstance," the spokeswoman said.

Stone, 25, charged at Morocco-born Ayooub El-Khazaani after the heavily armed terror suspect opened fire. Stone, along with his two friends, Anthony Sadler, a senior at Sacramento University in California, and Oregon Army National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos, subdued the suspected gunman.

Stone was stabbed with a box cutter during a struggle with El-Khazaani and had surgery to reattach part of his hand.

"He seemed like he was willing to fight to the end — so were we," Stone said of El-Khazzani.

The three Americans were awarded France's highest honor by President Francois Hollande and were honored at the White House by President Barack Obama. Stone was awarded the prestigious Airman's Medal and a Purple Heart, and Army Specialist Skarlatos received the Army's Soldiers Medal.

The city of Sacramento threw a parade for the three hometown heroes.

A British businessman and a French-American also have been praised for their efforts to stop the gunman.

Skarlatos tweeted Thursday, "Everybody send prayers out to the stone family today."
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