Several injured in shooting on Amsterdam-Paris high-speed train

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garbon

#30
August 22, 2015, 05:01:04 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 04:42:26 AM
I like the way Cazeneuve tries to avoid using terrorism or terrorist when describing this attack or "incident", unlike the Belgian prime minister.  :rolleyes:

At most, this was a failed attempt at terrorism, no?
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#31
August 22, 2015, 05:09:26 AM
It's really bizarre to argue that only succesful terrorist attacks are terrorism.  :huh:

I guess by that logic you are not an antisemite unless you get at least one Jew in a pogrom...

Josquius

#32
August 22, 2015, 05:58:57 AM
Asked for his gun back :lol:
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Legbiter

#33
August 22, 2015, 07:36:08 AM
Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

Duque de Bragança

#34
August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.

Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train

En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php

Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.

Crazy_Ivan80

#35
August 22, 2015, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.

Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train

En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php

Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.
Brussel has many things, but not weapons lying around by the bag load.

Phillip V

#36
August 22, 2015, 11:13:14 AM
Why have Frenchmen never saved America from terrorist attack? :mad:

Eddie Teach

#37
August 22, 2015, 11:18:39 AM
They gave us a nice statue.  :)
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#38
August 22, 2015, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on August 22, 2015, 11:13:14 AM
Why have Frenchmen never saved America from terrorist attack? :mad:

They did, between 1778 and 1782.  They probably would have in 1812-1814 as well, but they were rather busy trying to keep the Russians out of Europe.
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#39
August 22, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
We weren't terrorists though. If anything, they were the terrorists.

celedhring

#40
August 22, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.

French police should look again, he does have a criminal record in Spain for drug trafficking. There's a search and capture order out for him, actually.

grumbler

#41
August 22, 2015, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: PJL on August 22, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
We weren't terrorists though. If anything, they were the terrorists.

They weren't the terrorists.  The others were.
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Duque de Bragança

#42
August 22, 2015, 06:46:54 PM Last Edit: August 22, 2015, 06:48:53 PM by Duque de Bragança
Quote from: celedhring on August 22, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.

French police should look again, he does have a criminal record in Spain for drug trafficking. There's a search and capture order out for him, actually.

It seems the police was under orders of the Interior minister to avoid looking at the file Spanish intelligence had about him...

PS: at least now he has been formally identified, that shoulp perhaps authorise them to have a look at his file.

Razgovory

#43
August 22, 2015, 07:11:21 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 22, 2015, 08:08:54 AM
According to Le Figaro, when questioned, the shooter denies terrorist intent and instead states he was just planning a heist and found the weapons in a bag by chance in a park in Bruxelles.
Police is not convinced since he does not fit the petty criminal profile, no criminal record and no time served.

Quote• Le tireur affirme avoir voulu braquer le train

En garde à vue, le suspect a donné une version des faits pour le moins déroutante. Il nie avoir eu l'intention de commettre un attentat. Il explique avoir voulu braquer le train et rançonner les passagers. Interrogé sur la provenance de son arsenal, qui comprenait un pistolet automatique, une kalachnikov des munitions et un cutter, le tireur assure les avoir découverts par hasard dans un sac abandonné dans un parc de Bruxelles.
Un récit qui, en l'état des investigations, ne tient pas, souligne les sources policières. L'homme n'a jamais été emprisonné et n'a pas le profil d'un délinquant de droit commun.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/08/22/01016-20150822ARTFIG00063-thalys-le-tireur-affirme-avoir-voulu-braquer-le-train.php

Guy also went to Syria, according to El Pais. Probably as a tourist, I guess.

I'm going to guess he'll need a better story then that.
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Tonitrus

#44
August 22, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
I like how everyone assumed the two US dudes were Marines, and it turns out to be USAF and Army National Guard.  :P
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