Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders

[Maladict]

I'm kinda curious about the Hindus in Guyana.

Guyana and Suriname have a high percentage of Hindus and Muslims. They were brought over by the Dutch and British from India and Java to work on the plantations.

[Duque de Bragança]

Also parts of Surinam, Guyana, and French Guiana are part of Africa 

Think of Taubira

[Josquius]

Yeah. Lots of Indians in the carribean  (which Guyana and Suriname pretty much are)

[Syt]

there should be lots of Latin American dots all over US now

What about Latin American AOEs?

[Eddie Teach]

there should be lots of Latin American dots all over US now

Nah, we turn the kids into Tims and Jarons. 

[Josquius]

there should be lots of Latin American dots all over US now

Nah, we turn the kids into Tims and Jarons. 

You could have had Sophia Vegara.
Instead you have Tim.
FOR SHAME AMERICA. For shame!

[alfred russel]

This is how Huntington divided civilizations. His work may have been flawed, but he was probably more knowledgeable on the subject than anyone here:

Obviously if you are going to include all those groups, Latin America is going to fall into the "Latin American" cultural grouping. I don't think the dispute is whether there is a cultural connection between the countries of Latin America (and to an extent Portugal and Spain), but whether that subgrouping should be included as western.

My point of view is that a grouping that leaves Greece outside of the western cultural grouping is a bit too granular.

[Valmy]

Well right...are Portugal and Brazil not part of the same civilization? That seems weird no?

[Martinus]

This is how Huntington divided civilizations. His work may have been flawed, but he was probably more knowledgeable on the subject than anyone here:

Obviously if you are going to include all those groups, Latin America is going to fall into the "Latin American" cultural grouping. I don't think the dispute is whether there is a cultural connection between the countries of Latin America (and to an extent Portugal and Spain), but whether that subgrouping should be included as western.

My point of view is that a grouping that leaves Greece outside of the western cultural grouping is a bit too granular.

I think you guys are underestimating the Latin vs. Orthodox divide. Ancient Greece was definitely a part of the Western civilization, modern not so much.

[The Minsky Moment]

In Asia: "Sinic", "Buddhist", "Japanese", ...
In non-Islamic Africa: "African"

Well that's Huntington for you.
One the dumbest smart guys out there.

[Razgovory]

I think you guys are underestimating the Latin vs. Orthodox divide. Ancient Greece was definitely a part of the Western civilization, modern not so much.

What makes it Western? And if it's the origin of Western what is the origin of Orthodox?

[crazy canuck]

Ok, so when we talk about the west we will be sure to remember you immediately think  - El Salvador

I rarely think about El Salvador in any context.

But you really don't think of Argentina, Chile, and Brazil as western countries?

No, I have never thought of them that way.  South American countries yes.  Western?  No.  Typically when someone talks about Western Countries they are talking about the US, Canada and Europe.

[crazy canuck]

Well right...are Portugal and Brazil not part of the same civilization? That seems weird no?

If we are going to count colonizers then is South Africa "Western"?

[Valmy]

Well right...are Portugal and Brazil not part of the same civilization? That seems weird no?

If we are going to count colonizers then is South Africa "Western"?

So the United States and Canada are not "Western" then? And I think the reasons that South Africa and Brazil are different situations are obvious.

[crazy canuck]

Well right...are Portugal and Brazil not part of the same civilization? That seems weird no?

If we are going to count colonizers then is South Africa "Western"?

So the United States and Canada are not "Western" then? And I think the reasons that South Africa and Brazil are different situations are obvious.

Sometimes you dont actually read the thread before posting, so I will assume you are not wilfully taking me out of context.  Go back to what I said is considered Western.  And really are you just arguing for shits and giggles or do you actually think of Brazil when people refer to Western countries.