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Started by Syt, June 26, 2015, 09:12:08 AM

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DGuller

Quote from: grumbler on July 01, 2015, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 30, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
I can understand Malthus's frustration, to be honest. Languish in general, and some posters in particular (CC, Yi and grumbler all come to mind) have this tendency to really bog you down in minutiae by deliberately (or perhaps it is some form of psychosis or mental deficiency) misinterpreting your post - and if you choose to ignore them in exasperation, they smugly and abrasively announce their "victory".

Can you give me an example of where I have done any of these things?  I'm not seeing it, but if it is so common, you surely can provide an example.  If you can't, it will be pretty clear that you are just trying to add to the already-poisonous atmosphere here, perhaps because of "some form of psychosis or mental deficiency," as you so politely put it.
To be fair, it's an unwinnable proposition for him.  If he find some past debate where you misinterpret his point, you can just go back and say that he's backtracking and is now claiming that he meant something different than what he meant originally.

grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2015, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 01, 2015, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 30, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
I can understand Malthus's frustration, to be honest. Languish in general, and some posters in particular (CC, Yi and grumbler all come to mind) have this tendency to really bog you down in minutiae by deliberately (or perhaps it is some form of psychosis or mental deficiency) misinterpreting your post - and if you choose to ignore them in exasperation, they smugly and abrasively announce their "victory".

Can you give me an example of where I have done any of these things?  I'm not seeing it, but if it is so common, you surely can provide an example.  If you can't, it will be pretty clear that you are just trying to add to the already-poisonous atmosphere here, perhaps because of "some form of psychosis or mental deficiency," as you so politely put it.
To be fair, it's an unwinnable proposition for him.  If he find some past debate where you misinterpret his point, you can just go back and say that he's backtracking and is now claiming that he meant something different than what he meant originally.

To be fair, he can either provide examples where he thinks I did any of those things, or he can't.  What I say about his examples doesn't make him win or lose.  He'll just be providing examples, and people can judge whether or not his personal attack was justified based on the examples.
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Glad to see you posting grumbles. I get a little worried when people vanish for a bit after the Seedy thing.
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DGuller

Quote from: grumbler on July 01, 2015, 11:06:19 AM
To be fair, he can either provide examples where he thinks I did any of those things, or he can't.  What I say about his examples doesn't make him win or lose.  He'll just be providing examples, and people can judge whether or not his personal attack was justified based on the examples.
I think most people can already judge on their own.  It's not like Languish is full of newcomers, we're all very familiar with each other's debating styles.

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2015, 11:06:59 AM
Glad to see you posting grumbles. I get a little worried when people vanish for a bit after the Seedy thing.

I still visit, but don't post much here any more, for reasons that are probably pretty clear:  its so toxic here sometimes that we drive away posters, both new and old.  I still enjoy reading most of the threads, though, so I am not going anywhere.
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on July 01, 2015, 09:54:05 AM
Damn, I was hoping Obama would send in the National Guard. :P

Btw, I have been seriously considering moving to Oregon for the last two months. And they just legalised recreational marijuana.  :ph34r:

Do take note that most of Oregon is not Portland.
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grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on July 01, 2015, 11:10:08 AM
I think most people can already judge on their own.  It's not like Languish is full of newcomers, we're all very familiar with each other's debating styles.

And Malthus's point is proven, once again.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: Martinus on July 01, 2015, 09:54:05 AM
Damn, I was hoping Obama would send in the National Guard. :P

Btw, I have been seriously considering moving to Oregon for the last two months. And they just legalised recreational marijuana.  :ph34r:

Do take note that most of Oregon is not Portland.

And the US has enough lawyers.  :P

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on July 01, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2015, 11:06:59 AM
Glad to see you posting grumbles. I get a little worried when people vanish for a bit after the Seedy thing.

I still visit, but don't post much here any more, for reasons that are probably pretty clear:  its so toxic here sometimes that we drive away posters, both new and old.  I still enjoy reading most of the threads, though, so I am not going anywhere.

This coming from the man who begs other posters to ignore me?
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viper37

Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
Do take note that most of Oregon is not Portland.
wouldn't that apply to just about any major cities, being different than the countryside?  Is New York city just about the same as everywhere else in New York State?  Are Houston and Dallas very similar to the rest of Texas? :)
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garbon

Quote from: viper37 on July 01, 2015, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 01, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
Do take note that most of Oregon is not Portland.
wouldn't that apply to just about any major cities, being different than the countryside?  Is New York city just about the same as everywhere else in New York State?  Are Houston and Dallas very similar to the rest of Texas? :)

No, I don't think so (beyond obviously the difference between urban, suburban and rural existences). I was thinking more like this, where you can see Oregon situation is highly different from say what happens in California or New York. (using presidential country results as proxy)







That said Texas does seem to follow something similar, but then I wouldn't advise Marti to move to any Texan city either. :P

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garbon

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2015, 05:14:18 AM
He'd probably be fine in Austin.

Well the point I was making on Portland, and then yeah probably would be same with Austin, is that sure you have your little great enclave but then you are stuck in the midst of your wider state...:D
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