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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:35:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:32:58 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
The Revolution was not immoral.
Rebellion against one's lawful sovereign is always immoral.  Rebellion against one's lawful sovereign to create a brutal, expansionistic slaver state is even moreso.
Given the ordinance banning slavery from the Northwest territories you're branding the founding generation with a brush more suitable for Calhoun's.
Slavery was allowed to exist in the United States.  Moreover, the brutality and thirst for conquest of the early United States cannot be disputed.
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.
:lol: Bullshit
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.

Unlike the British the US never actually murdered their own king and then ran a dictotorship based around councils.  The British are nothing more then Sea Russians.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.
:lol: Bullshit
The British didn't rebel against their king.  Legal and moral superiority is theirs.

Britain didn't commit genocide against the Indians, either.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.
:lol: Bullshit
The British didn't rebel against their king.  Legal and moral superiority is theirs.

Britain didn't commit genocide against the Indians, either.

Of course they did.  They just sucked at it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
By that definition Britain was a brutal, expressionistic slaver state as well. What's the difference?
Britain had law and morality on their side, which the rebels eschewed.  Moreover, Britain's expansionism was by and large a civilizing mission, and thus morally superior.
:lol: Bullshit
The British didn't rebel against their king.  Legal and moral superiority is theirs.

Britain didn't commit genocide against the Indians, either.
We were British when we started that policy.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
We were British when we started that policy.
No Englishman could have thought up the Trail of Tears.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
We were British when we started that policy.
No Englishman could have thought up the Trail of Tears.
If the British hadn't brutalized Jackson as a child he wouldn't have grown up so screwed up.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 29, 2009, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
We were British when we started that policy.
No Englishman could have thought up the Trail of Tears.
If the British hadn't brutalized Jackson as a child he wouldn't have grown up so screwed up.
Nonsense.  Jackson was a rebel, and deserved to be hanged.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Tonitrus

Quote from: katmai on March 29, 2009, 01:54:05 PM
I'm just hoping the Volcano is quiet enough so they can open airport and Tonitrus can catch his flight tonight.

Stay out of my house.  :mad:

HVC

Quote from: Tonitrus on March 29, 2009, 11:09:13 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 29, 2009, 01:54:05 PM
I'm just hoping the Volcano is quiet enough so they can open airport and Tonitrus can catch his flight tonight.

Stay out of my house.  :mad:
He knows teamsters. Everything will be gone in a day... actually, knowing teamsters everythign should be gone in a day, but it'll take them 1-2 weeks :lol:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Syt

History Channel is currently re-running their series about the American Revolution. I love the second episode which also mentions the discussion about blacks joining the Continentals and Washington's comments about keeping "those people" out of the affair. :lol:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Monoriu

Utilizing my elite begging skillz, I managed to change a sentence in my appraisal report from "he is a total slacker" to "he is just shy".  So proud of my accomplishments :contract:

Josquius

I've decided...I must teach myself photoshop...Somehow.
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