The Off Topic Topic

[celedhring]

After all the languish bullying, I finally gave in and bought an electric kettle 

[Sheilbh]

In very expected poll results:

[celedhring]

That should have been your approach to the EU

[Sheilbh]

That should have been your approach to the EU

That is the other option stay in the group indefinitely but very loudly make it clear you don't want to be part of this group chat

[Richard Hakluyt]

That should have been your approach to the EU

Wise words 

[Josquius]

Could be a quick work around for the general problems of FPTP and binary choices.
You get to vote for the one you want regularly, or tick a "I'm voting for them but I'm not happy about it" box.

[Razgovory]

After all the languish bullying, I finally gave in and bought an electric kettle 

Well, well, well.  If it isn't the Spaniard calling the kettle electric.


No, I don't know what I'm going on about.  Shut up!  Leave me alone!

[11B4V]

For the English nerds. Does this sound correct?

Your destination is the journey.

[merithyn]

For the English nerds. Does this sound correct?

Your destination is the journey.

Grammatically, it's correct. It sounds odd - I think I'd say it differently - but it's not incorrect.

[PDH]

Perhaps less grammatically accepted, but more how I would say it is: "Your destination...is the journey."   Adding in that pause to allow gravitas to flood into the voice and overwhelm the listener with acceptance of your more zen-like wisdom.

[mongers]

Perhaps less grammatically accepted, but more how I would say it is: "Your destination...is the journey."   Adding in that pause to allow gravitas to flood into the voice and overwhelm the listener with acceptance of your more zen-like wisdom.

Or in a high pitch Canadian voice:

"The point of the Journey is not to arrive"

[11B4V]

Thank you folks.

[Razgovory]

And with that 11B4V finishes his novel.

[Syt]

In German it's "Der Weg ist das Ziel".

Some googling suggests there's three common ways to express this in English:

https://www.crellin.de/2012/06/der-weg-ist-das-ziel-auf-englisch/?cookie-state-change=1597381216692

In German, this saying always takes the same form. In English, there are numerous ways of expressing the same idea. However, from my research I have found three which appear to be in fairly common usage:

o   'The journey is the reward'
o   'The journey is the destination'
o   'The way is the goal'

'The journey is the reward' appears on all the online dictionaries I consulted. Google search returns a sizable 1 560 000 results. However, this may be influenced by a book with this title about the life of former Apple boss Steve Jobs (but this does confirm that it is a phrase in use). The search was narrowed by including the word 'proverb'. This returned 482 000 hits.

'The journey is the destination' provides 1 080 000 results. However, a large number of the returned links are concerned with journals of this title by a British photographer called Dan Eldon, who was killed in Somalia in 1993. While this does not make this choice unsuitable, it seems to have a specific association with these journals.

'The way is the goal' and 'proverb' returns 7 610 000 Google hits. However, the search results often point towards a link with Gandhi – in all likelihood due to a book called The Way is the Goal: Gandhi Today by Prof. Johan Galtung. Intriguingly, there is no firm evidence to suggest Gandhi actually did say this. Again, this connection does not necessarily make it unsuitable.

Modern quotations as viable alternatives

From further research, I found that two notable literary figures of recent history had their own take on the idea underlying "der Weg ist das Ziel".

Ralph Waldo Emerson, an American poet, once said 'life is a journey, not a destination.' This has 1 620 000 Google hits or 228 000 when searched specifically in connection with Emerson.

And in 1881, poet and novelist Robert Louis Stevenson said 'to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive.'

[Eddie Teach]

Life's a journey, not a destination
And I just can't tell just what tomorrow brings