The Off Topic Topic

[Eddie Teach]

If that is true, it means you do follow the WNBA closely...

Does the WNBA play hockey, baseball, or American football?

You added the last line after I'd already loaded the page.

[Sheilbh]

Like the Queen Anne edition - the mid 19th century British political compass:
https://www.gotoquiz.com/political_compass_mid_19th_century_edition_18

Political Compass: Mid-19th Century Edition (1829-1867)
Your Result: Chartist

77% result

You are a Chartist, a member of the organisation that promoted the Six Points of the Peoples Charter in the late 1830s and 1840s: universal manhood suffrage, annual parliaments, equalisation of parliamentary constituencies, payment of MPs, the secret ballot, and the abolition of property qualifications for MPs. Unhappy with the limitations of the 1832 Reform Act, you wanted to give all men a say in the laws that affected them, not just the propertied, who pass class legislation that robs you blind and benefits a small elite. You conducted mass petitioning and set up various newspapers - most famously the Northern Star - to promote your cause (and from time to time you tried a bit of insurrection, but that did not work out so well). Some among your number are socialists. After the failure of the 1848 petition, you faded away, but your ideals lived on and (eventually) triumphed. Examples: Fergus OConnor, Ernest Jones, William Lovett

42% Manchester Liberal/Radical
36% Establishment Whig
36% Young England/Tory Radical
14% Peelite
0% Dizzy-Derby Tory
0% Tory Ultra
0% Palmerstonian Liberal

[The Brain]

Political Compass: Mid-19th Century Edition (1829-1867)
Your Result: Chartist

86% result

You are a Chartist, a member of the organisation that promoted the Six Points of the Peoples Charter in the late 1830s and 1840s: universal manhood suffrage, annual parliaments, equalisation of parliamentary constituencies, payment of MPs, the secret ballot, and the abolition of property qualifications for MPs. Unhappy with the limitations of the 1832 Reform Act, you wanted to give all men a say in the laws that affected them, not just the propertied, who pass class legislation that robs you blind and benefits a small elite. You conducted mass petitioning and set up various newspapers - most famously the Northern Star - to promote your cause (and from time to time you tried a bit of insurrection, but that did not work out so well). Some among your number are socialists. After the failure of the 1848 petition, you faded away, but your ideals lived on and (eventually) triumphed. Examples: Fergus OConnor, Ernest Jones, William Lovett


60%Young England/Tory Radical
46%Establishment Whig
45%Manchester Liberal/Radical
34%Tory Ultra
33%Dizzy-Derby Tory
5%Peelite
0%Palmerstonian Liberal

[Eddie Teach]

89% Chartist

[Josquius]

85% chartist
50% Manchester Liberal/Radical

Must say I've not ran into the term Manchester Liberal before.
Sounds like a spiffing sports team.

[HVC]

Political Compass: Mid-19th Century Edition (1829-1867)
Your Result: Manchester Liberal/Radical

You are bit of a radical, albeit also frankly a bit of a heartless so-and-so. You despise the landed establishment and the established Church, which, you argue, are just rackets designed to oppress the honest, thrifty manufacturer. You believe that working men, if they are sufficiently educated, responsible and sober, should be allowed to come within the pale of the constitution and get the vote, but only if they can be relied on to promote your mid-Victorian gospel of free trade, self-reliance and laissez-faire. You hate the Corn Laws, oppose any attempts to regulate industry, and are a big fan of the scientific application of utilitarian principles to reform the state, especially if it involves workhouses. You believe that if everyone adopts your principles, the world will be united in a pacific utopia of trade and prosperity. Examples: John Bright, Richard Cobden, middle-to-later Gladstone.
Result Breakdown:
77% Manchester Liberal/Radical
70% Chartist
32% Establishment Whig
24% Peelite
4% Palmerstonian Liberal
2% Young England/Tory Radical
0% Tory Ultra
0% Dizzy-Derby Tory

[crazy canuck]

He was on an NBA podcast I follow a few weeks ago. Started discussing potential trades and such and he was pretty clueless. Nothing major, really. It gave off the vibe of somebody that has an opinion on everything even though he probably shouldn't, and is very much wiling to tell it to you. I actually found him weirdly likeable, to be honest.

Yeah he has been talking about the NBA on his podcast and has had some NBA people on. The NBA is the one sports league in this country I do not follow that closely. If he was talking Hockey, Baseball, or American Football I would be all over it

It's the only one I follow closely. 

I pay attention to the NFL if the Giants don't suck (not an option with the Knicks).

So been a few decades since you watched an NFL game?

Not even a full one yet. The NYFG won the super bowl in 2012.

And they sucked, as a team.

[Grey Fox]

Spoken like a TB12 apologist.

[Agelastus]

Peelite.

Basically, you are a very moderate Tory who supports free-trade. You worship the brand of technocratic, liberal conservatism represented by Sir Robert himself. You split from the Conservative Party (as you had taken to calling it) over Corn Law Repeal, as you could not bring yourself to support Protection. You condemn your old party to 30 years in the wilderness as a result. Apart from the fact that you are a bit more sympathetic to the Church of England and oppose further parliamentary reform, you are difficult to distinguish from most Whigs and moderate liberals. You probably end up drifting into the Liberal Party, although some of you return to the Tories once Protection becomes a lost cause. Examples: Sir Robert Peel, a young William Gladstone, the Earl of Aberdeen, Sir James Graham


69% Dizzy-Derby Tory
55% Establishment Whig
53% Young England/Tory Radical
52% Palmerstonian Liberal
38% Chartist
9% Manchester Liberal/Radical
0% Tory Ultra

[Josquius]

Random out of context Orwell commentary on old story papers:

Naturally the politics of the Gem and Magnet are Conservative, but in a completely pre-1914 style, with no Fascist tinge. In reality their basic political assumptions are two: nothing ever changes, and foreigners are funny. In the Gem of 1939 Frenchmen are still Froggies and Italians are still Dagoes. Mossoo, the French master at Greyfriars, is the usual comic-paper Frog, with pointed beard, pegtop trousers, etc. Inky, the Indian boy, though a rajah, and therefore possessing snob-appeal, is also the comic babu of the Punch tradition. ("The rowfulness is not the proper caper, my esteemed Bob," said Inky. "Let dogs delight in the barkfulness and bitefulness, but the soft answer is the cracked pitcher that goes longest to a bird in the bush, as the English proverb remarks.") Fisher T. Fish is the old-style stage Yankee ("Waal, I guess", etc.) dating from a peroid of Anglo-American jealousy. Wun Lung, the Chinese boy (he has rather faded out of late, no doubt because some of the Magnet's readers are Straits Chinese), is the nineteenth-century pantomime Chinaman, with saucer-shaped hat, pigtail and pidgin-English. The assumption all along is not only that foreigners are comics who are put there for us to laugh at, but that they can be classified in much the same way as insects. That is why in all boys' papers, not only the Gem and Magnet, a Chinese is invariably portrayed with a pigtail. It is the thing you recognize him by, like the Frenchman's beard or the Italian's barrel-organ. In papers of this kind it occasionally happens that when the setting of a story is in a foreign country some attempt is made to describe the natives as individual human beings, but as a rule it is assumed that foreigners of any one race are all alike and will conform more or less exactly to the following patterns:

Frenchman: Excitable. Wears beard, gesticulates wildly.

Spaniard, Mexican, etc.: Sinister, treacherous.

Arab, Afghan, etc.: Sinister, treacherous.

Chinese: Sinister, treacherous. Wears pigtail.

Italian: Excitable. Grinds barrel-organ or carries stiletto.

Swede, Dane, etc.: Kind-hearted, stupid.

Negro: Comic, very faithful.

[Savonarola]

Like the Queen Anne edition - the mid 19th century British political compass:
https://www.gotoquiz.com/political_compass_mid_19th_century_edition_18

Political Compass: Mid-19th Century Edition (1829-1867)
Your Result: Young England/Tory Radical

You are a romantic paternalistic Conservative who believes that encroaching industrial capitalism is a disease ripping the heart out of England and dissolving the sacred social bonds of the old order. You are a sincere and convinced Anglican who takes Christianity VERY seriously. You think that an alliance between the noblesse oblige spirit of the landed elite and the poor against the gradgrind liberals and utilitarians is the best course (although led by yourselves, of course). You passionately oppose Poor Law Reform, which you feel risks breaking up the sacred Christian bond of marriage and treating the poor like animals and you support the Factory Acts. You generally struggle to hide your contempt for the new breed of upstart industrialists who are ruining our green and pleasant land with smoky factories and other ghastliness. Your rallying cries are Queen and Church, Throne and Altar, Christ and the Poor! You hope to render parliamentary reform and Chartism irrelevant by reconciling the poor to traditional order. Example: Richard Oastler, Lord John Manners, a young Disraeli

It's interesting that none of the questions deal with the empire.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah except for Ireland which is in the Union. I think that's accurate and "Empire" only becomes a big political issue at the end of the 19th century - my theory (which I'd also apply to the US now v 20th century) is that empire/imperialism only becomes political when empires are in relative decline. When they're growing or dominant, then there is high level elite consensus.

[The Larch]

92% Chartist. 

Edit: Took it again picking the funnier answers, ended up being a Tory Ultra.   

[celedhring]

As I always do with these British tests, I answer them as a contemporary Spaniard would: that is, choosing the option that I believe will bring more strife and opprobium to the perfidious Albion.

Political Compass: Mid-19th Century Edition (1829-1867)
Your Result: Tory Ultra 91%

[Sheilbh]

Tory Ultras: Causing Chaos for 150 Years