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11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

The Brain

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 20, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 19, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
Yup - the crime of refusing to provide a sample.  Which carries an identical penalty to impaired driving.

To give a little support to the Beeb position, as much as it pains me ( :P), having zealously fought drunk driving charges on utter technicalities -- to be in this situation in the US there has already been [IN THEORY, I note] on an officer's part:

1) reasonable suspicion to pull you over at all, i.e. based on your driving it is reasonable to suspect a crime is being committed [if it's e.g. speeding, then RS should be found over again to reasonably suspect drunk driving];

2) after pulling you over, probable cause is found to arrest you for the offense (i.e. a reasonable police officer thinks you are probably driving drunk), which is ascertained in a variety of standardized ways: FST's (walking a line heel-toe, raising one foot, touching your nose), HGN (seeing how your eyes move involuntarily in light), general behavior and speech, and then the on-site Breathalyzer (which AFAIK can only be entered as evidence that *some* alcohol was consumed, not the reading.)  The "Intoxylizer" at the station gives the definitive BAC, unless you opt for a blood test in most places.  So by the time a sample is being ordered, it is at least in theory well past the phase of arbitrary "just cause I say so" on the part of cops.

Here, when you refuse to blow into the Intox or give blood (you can always, and generally should, refuse the other tests), you generally get a civil penalty from the motor vehicle dept. suspending your license for a year (usually the same as a 1x DD), aside from any criminal issues.  Which is why you should generally not blow if you already have a DD conviction or 4 on your record, but generally should if you don't.

Couldn't you just drive sober?
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Syt

Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 01:43:27 AM
Godamn :huh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DGl4o3B46E

I guess they had a dozen guardian angels to get out of that one. Though the Tiger crew must have gone deaf with all the HE rounds going off on their tank.
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Syt

Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 02:13:19 AM
Start at 1:03  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlSn6jtBIqE

Goes to show how unrealistic computer games are. If I move so predictably or take so little cover as those guys in Arma II, I'll be dead in 10 seconds.

In fact, during my service, I got chewed out by an NCO once because when I heard MG fire a couple hundred meters away while crossing a meadow I didn't immediately hit the ground.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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derspiess

Quote from: Liep on April 20, 2013, 04:18:13 PM
Copenhagen is locked down; Bieber is in town.

:nelson: Blame Canada.
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I think my Sciatica is acting up again. :(
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Quote from: Razgovory on April 20, 2013, 08:18:49 PM
I think my Sciatica is acting up again. :(

:(

I hate my Sciatica.
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Razgovory

My idiot brother is passed out in the bathroom and I'm not allowed to go in there and beat himwake him up. <_<  Useless fucking drunk.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on April 20, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
My idiot brother is passed out in the bathroom and I'm not allowed to go in there and beat himwake him up. <_<  Useless fucking drunk.

Might want to check and make sure he's not passed out on his back.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".