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Started by Josephus, May 12, 2015, 04:23:39 PM

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garbon

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Norgy

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 13, 2015, 04:09:33 AM
I'm wondering which of the two offences he commited are the most egregious :

(1) He is an Arsenal supporter.

(2) He used the term "fuck her in the pussy" instead of the correct "ask for anal".

:hmm:

I think you should be on the jury here, RH.  :lol:

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: garbon on May 13, 2015, 04:36:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 13, 2015, 01:23:35 AM
You are going to end up with a very high level of unemployment if all obnoxious wankers are fired.


Maybe though it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to avoid planning to go on television to say vile things.

That sounds fair enough, but with the proliferation of electronic devices and social media whether we are on television or not itself becomes a blurry area. It is possible that etiquette simply has not yet caught up and people need to understand that  :hmm:

He's at the limit of course, his behaviour was grossly offensive; but I wouldn't want to see the likes of my crappy joke a few posts up or B's comment to her colleague demonised.

Norgy

I have a real life example of a friend posting something insensitive and quite offensive on Facebook. It escalated quite quickly and he's receiving threats etc.

This guy (in the piece at the beginning) has easily poured his credibility down the toilet and made himself unemployable elsewhere.

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Valmy

Quote from: Norgy on May 13, 2015, 05:36:50 AM
I have a real life example of a friend posting something insensitive and quite offensive on Facebook. It escalated quite quickly and he's receiving threats etc.

Seriously man. You never say anything controversial on facebook. That is where you say 'happy birthday!' and 'boy your kid is cute'
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2015, 07:49:30 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 13, 2015, 05:36:50 AM
I have a real life example of a friend posting something insensitive and quite offensive on Facebook. It escalated quite quickly and he's receiving threats etc.

Seriously man. You never say anything controversial on facebook. That is where you say 'happy birthday!' and 'boy your kid is cute'

I wish my gay cousin would learn not to overshare on facebook.
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Josephus

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 13, 2015, 04:09:33 AM
I'm wondering which of the two offences he commited are the most egregious :

(1) He is an Arsenal supporter.

(2) He used the term "fuck her in the pussy" instead of the correct "ask for anal".

:hmm:

He actually never said fuck her in the pussy. That was another guy. He basically said, she should have a vibrator in her ear, or something.
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Josephus

Quote from: Brazen on May 13, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 13, 2015, 04:36:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 13, 2015, 01:23:35 AM
You are going to end up with a very high level of unemployment if all obnoxious wankers are fired.


Maybe though it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to avoid planning to go on television to say vile things.
Well, yes. I say a lot of things that could probably get me sacked in private, but I've never been idiotic enough to say them on national media.

Mind you, as I left work last night, my colleague asked "Are you coming?" to which I replied, "No, I'm just standing awkwardly."

But nowadays you don't have to say anything on national media. Some 12 year old with a cheap phone can be filming you.
Civis Romanus Sum

"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2015, 07:49:30 AM
'boy your kid is cute'

That could mean you are a pedo, though.

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Malthus

Quote from: Josephus on May 13, 2015, 08:12:21 AM

But nowadays you don't have to say anything on national media. Some 12 year old with a cheap phone can be filming you.

Andy Warhol got it wrong: in the future, everyone will be the target of an internet mob for 15 minutes for something dumb, obnoxious or insensitive they have said or done that got recorded by someone. They just better hope that during that 15 minutes, they aren't fired, arrested or stoned by vigilantes.  :D
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Martinus

Quote from: Malthus on May 13, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 13, 2015, 08:12:21 AM

But nowadays you don't have to say anything on national media. Some 12 year old with a cheap phone can be filming you.

Andy Warhol got it wrong: in the future, everyone will be the target of an internet mob for 15 minutes for something dumb, obnoxious or insensitive they have said or done that got recorded by someone. They just better hope that during that 15 minutes, they aren't fired, arrested or stoned by vigilantes.  :D

Yeah as I said, my expectation is that this will eventually become a non-issue because everybody will be implicated.

Malthus

Quote from: Martinus on May 13, 2015, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: Malthus on May 13, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 13, 2015, 08:12:21 AM

But nowadays you don't have to say anything on national media. Some 12 year old with a cheap phone can be filming you.

Andy Warhol got it wrong: in the future, everyone will be the target of an internet mob for 15 minutes for something dumb, obnoxious or insensitive they have said or done that got recorded by someone. They just better hope that during that 15 minutes, they aren't fired, arrested or stoned by vigilantes.  :D

Yeah as I said, my expectation is that this will eventually become a non-issue because everybody will be implicated.

"Implicated" isn't the same as 'gone viral'. Person A may have done the exact same obnoxious stunt as person B, and both captured on media; but for whatever reason, person A's stunt catches attention, but not person B's.

"Everyone is guilty so anyone can pay,
I'm just surprised it doesn't happen every bloody day" - New Model Army ;)
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