52% of Americans in favor of soaking the rich.

Started by jimmy olsen, May 05, 2015, 07:48:47 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2015, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 06, 2015, 10:52:01 AM
I think Yi already answered it. Republicans don't care about inequality and they have the power to stop redistribution.

I think there would also be some resistance to a straight out transfer from the centrist wing of the Democratic party.


Agreed.  I think the Dem center would accept Clinton-era tax levels to fund infrastructure and maybe environment/ green energy, but not wealth transfer.
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Berkut

It is so much fun trying to have a conversation about this stuff when the "sides" insist on using incompatible language.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Berkut on May 06, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
It is so much fun trying to have a conversation about this stuff when the "sides" insist on using incompatible language.

What are you talking about?

Berkut

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 06, 2015, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 06, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
It is so much fun trying to have a conversation about this stuff when the "sides" insist on using incompatible language.

What are you talking about?

What you are talking about.
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To combat incompatible language, Berkut adopts incomprehensible language.

The Brain

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grumbler

Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2015, 12:48:23 PM
In America punishments can't be cruel and unusual, right? What about rewards?
:lol:
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Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS!!!!!!11111

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Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS!!!!!!11111
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viper37

Quote from: grumbler on May 06, 2015, 11:18:55 AM
Sorry, but I am not going to engage in a pointless debate with you.  :)

If I address the issue, i'll do so on my  own volition and not as in response to an invitation from you to participate in a "debate" that consists of me making arguments supported by  facts and you engaging in ad homs and rhetorical exaggerations.  I've had my fill of that.
You should be proud of the way you dodge any intellectual interactions.  :)
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 06, 2015, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS!!!!!!11111
You do realize that if your beloved singularity came to pass and humanity became a post-scarcity society there would be a revolution that would massively alter the way that wealth is distributed and the economy managed.

There maybe a revolution alright - but it may not go the way you want it to go.  Technology, drones, AI, automation, remote control, etc mean that the few may stand a better chance against the masses in the future  :menace:

Siege

Quote from: Monoriu on May 06, 2015, 08:51:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 06, 2015, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
BUNCH OF COMMUNISTS!!!!!!11111
You do realize that if your beloved singularity came to pass and humanity became a post-scarcity society there would be a revolution that would massively alter the way that wealth is distributed and the economy managed.

There maybe a revolution alright - but it may not go the way you want it to go.  Technology, drones, AI, automation, remote control, etc mean that the few may stand a better chance against the masses in the future  :menace:
Seriously,  stop talking shit.
From a world of abundance we will all benefit.
A post singularity,  post scarcity society,  is a free society. We will be free to persue our dreams.



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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

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Monoriu

Quote from: Siege on May 07, 2015, 12:41:57 AM

Seriously,  stop talking shit.
From a world of abundance we will all benefit.
A post singularity,  post scarcity society,  is a free society. We will be free to persue our dreams.

I'm not worried.  Humans aren't about getting tons of stuff.  The point is to get more stuff than the next person.  In this sense, by definition, we'll never get to a post-scarcity society :contract:

grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on May 06, 2015, 08:33:53 PM
Quote from: grumbler on May 06, 2015, 11:18:55 AM
Sorry, but I am not going to engage in a pointless debate with you.  :)

If I address the issue, i'll do so on my  own volition and not as in response to an invitation from you to participate in a "debate" that consists of me making arguments supported by  facts and you engaging in ad homs and rhetorical exaggerations.  I've had my fill of that.
You should be proud of the way you dodge any intellectual interactions with trolls:)
FTFY  You can't start out trolling and then moan about lack in intellectual engagement.  The internet doesn't work that way.
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