Did Al Gore have what it takes to be President?

[Valmy]

And by the way, tech development would have been slower under Al Gore because of his "progressive" taxation against energy.
Energy = Industrial development = Tech development

This assumes he would have actually done this. Sure, left to his own devices he is a progressive environmentalist dude but during 2000 he was, and would continue to be, in the hands of Clinton handlers.

[crazy canuck]

In his books on the Bush administration Woodward described in some detail the degree to which Bush and members of his administration actively attempted to build the case for invading Iraq and ignored the evidence that their reason for the invasion was not well supported.

I doubt Gore would have done the same thing.

[Razgovory]

You said they could not leave their hotels which wasn't true.

I said they were restricted to their hotel at the time they decided to leave.  If you have evidence that that is not true, I'd love to see it.

  I can't believe you are falling for this again!

I honestly can't believe you are still doing this "I'm ignoring you as punishment", thing.  Yi was trying to give a false impression and I called him on that.

[derspiess]

In his books on the Bush administration Woodward described in some detail the degree to which Bush and members of his administration actively attempted to build the case for invading Iraq and ignored the evidence that their reason for the invasion was not well supported.

I doubt Gore would have done the same thing.

I think every administration has done that to some degree.  Can't imagine Gore doing otherwise *if* he strongly wanted to do something.

[Berkut]

In his books on the Bush administration Woodward described in some detail the degree to which Bush and members of his administration actively attempted to build the case for invading Iraq and ignored the evidence that their reason justification for the invasion was not well supported.

I doubt Gore would have done the same thing.

FYP.

[Admiral Yi]

I honestly can't believe you are still doing this "I'm ignoring you as punishment", thing.  Yi was trying to give a false impression and I called him on that.

Go fuck yourself Raz.

[Razgovory]

I honestly can't believe you are still doing this "I'm ignoring you as punishment", thing.  Yi was trying to give a false impression and I called him on that.

Go fuck yourself Raz.

What, now you're doing what Grumbler tells you?  You posts about not leaving the hotel, or searching the minibar gave the impression that weapon inspectors did nothing which is not true since they did in fact destroy quite a bit of material and inspected several hundred sights.

[Eddie Teach]

and inspected several hundred sights.

They could do that from the hotel. 

[Berkut]

Saying they inspected a lot of sites isn't nearly as interesting as noting that there were sites they were not allowed to inspect.

The Iraqi's know what they are trying to hide, so the fact that they let inspectors inspect things they weren't trying to hide isn't even a little bit interesting.

The fact that there were places they were NOT allowed to go is very, very interesting, and really the only pertinent data point when evaluating whether or not Saddam's regime was trying to hide something. Or at least appear like they were trying to hide something.

[Admiral Yi]

What, now you're doing what Grumbler tells you?  You posts about not leaving the hotel, or searching the minibar gave the impression that weapon inspectors did nothing which is not true since they did in fact destroy quite a bit of material and inspected several hundred sights.

The first time we went through this I figured you were confused, which is why I explained.  The second time it looks more like lying than confusion.

[grumbler]

I think every administration has done that to some degree.  Can't imagine Gore doing otherwise *if* he strongly wanted to do something.

there is something to what you say, but I cannot imagine gore wanting to do something so economically and politically catastrophic, and so damaging to the principals on which the country was founded.  He would have done something as dumb but nothing so foolish.

[Razgovory]

What, now you're doing what Grumbler tells you?  You posts about not leaving the hotel, or searching the minibar gave the impression that weapon inspectors did nothing which is not true since they did in fact destroy quite a bit of material and inspected several hundred sights.

The first time we went through this I figured you were confused, which is why I explained.  The second time it looks more like lying than confusion.

Okay we are not on the same wavelength here, because rather then an explanation that really came off as a challenge.

[crazy canuck]

In his books on the Bush administration Woodward described in some detail the degree to which Bush and members of his administration actively attempted to build the case for invading Iraq and ignored the evidence that their reason for the invasion was not well supported.

I doubt Gore would have done the same thing.

I think every administration has done that to some degree.  Can't imagine Gore doing otherwise *if* he strongly wanted to do something.

I agree.  The point is there is nothing to suggest Gore would have felt strongly about creating a case for invading Iraq.

[crazy canuck]

In his books on the Bush administration Woodward described in some detail the degree to which Bush and members of his administration actively attempted to build the case for invading Iraq and ignored the evidence that their reason justification for the invasion was not well supported.

I doubt Gore would have done the same thing.

FYP.

I accept the amendment from the floor.

[Razgovory]

Saying they inspected a lot of sites isn't nearly as interesting as noting that there were sites they were not allowed to inspect.

The Iraqi's know what they are trying to hide, so the fact that they let inspectors inspect things they weren't trying to hide isn't even a little bit interesting.

The fact that there were places they were NOT allowed to go is very, very interesting, and really the only pertinent data point when evaluating whether or not Saddam's regime was trying to hide something. Or at least appear like they were trying to hide something.

  Wait, what?  The inspectors did find things, such as a suspected bio weapons lab which they later destroyed.  That's not interesting?  Keep in mind that this was a paranoid fascist state so they always appear to be hiding stuff.  In particular they thought that the CIA had infiltrated the inspection teams and was going to assassinate Saddam  So really that's not that interesting that they appear to be hiding stuff, and events have borne this out.  Despite the appearance of trying to hide stuff no active weapons program was found after 2003.