How far right are you?

[Admiral Yi]

You, for example, are completely lacking in actual principles. I've never once seen you call out your own party for violating it's own principles.

Seeb is a bad target for this critique, since a big part of his schtick is blasting quote unquote RINOs for not being conservative enough.

[Berkut]

You, for example, are completely lacking in actual principles. I've never once seen you call out your own party for violating it's own principles.

Seeb is a bad target for this critique, since a big part of his schtick is blasting quote unquote RINOs for not being conservative enough.

Not being radical enough doesn't count as "calling out your own party" in the context of what I am talking about...

[crazy canuck]

I see, so you are arguing that if he had said "to an American, June is typically a warm month" then he would be saying that the definition of June is "a warm month."  The word "definition" is used weirdly by you Canadians (and no, I am not defining "weird people" as "Canadians")! 

No

[Valmy]

To me a moderate is a guy who voted for Cruz and then regretted it.  Like Valmy.

He said he was a 'common sense' Conservative

[derspiess]

[Valmy]

You, for example, are completely lacking in actual principles. I've never once seen you call out your own party for violating it's own principles.

Seeb is a bad target for this critique, since a big part of his schtick is blasting quote unquote RINOs for not being conservative enough.

And hammer the 'establishment' for selling out. He is an ideologue more than a partisan I think.

[crazy canuck]

To me a moderate is a guy who voted for Cruz and then regretted it.  Like Valmy.

He said he was a 'common sense' Conservative

He is a politician and his lips were moving....

[Berkut]

You, for example, are completely lacking in actual principles. I've never once seen you call out your own party for violating it's own principles.

Seeb is a bad target for this critique, since a big part of his schtick is blasting quote unquote RINOs for not being conservative enough.

And hammer the 'establishment' for selling out. He is an ideologue more than a partisan I think.

Partisan in this sense is not allegiance to the members of the party, but rather to the concept of the party. The most typical complaint about this type of partisanship from the rank and file is almost always that their representatives are not nearlly as batshit insane as they are, and sometimes that even rises to the level of demanding that the insufficiently pure be purged (see Tea Party today and the rejection of Blue Dog Dems several years ago).

So siege demanding that the political reps of his party be even more dogmatically narrow minded doesn't run contrary to my point.

If he was truly ideologically principled, he would be willing to call out his party when not only are they not batshit crazy enough for him, but even when they are simply wrong and the Dems are right, like the entire Benghazi abortion, for example.

[DontSayBanana]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that, even as small as this place is, the self-reporting's taken on a pretty neat bell curve?

[Ideologue]

The self-reporting is inaccurate.  The other 1s are neoliberals.

[Habbaku]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that, even as small as this place is, the self-reporting's taken on a pretty neat bell curve?

Yes.

[Eddie Teach]

That pattern looks more like a suspension bridge than a bell.

[grumbler]

That pattern looks more like a suspension bridge than a bell.

I think "bell curve" doesn't mean the same to the math-ignorant as it does to the math-savvy.  The pattern here is not at all a bell curve.

[DGuller]

[Siege]

It works both ways.  It seems a lot of Americans view themselves as more moderate then I would have guessed.

To an American, a moderate is typically someone who supports candidates from both parties. To many foreigners, a moderate is someone who wouldn't dream of voting Republican.

To me a moderate is guy without principles that flip flop at the drop of a coin. Like Berkut.

Which is kind of funny, since my over-riding theme throughout my time at Languish has been to point out that the partisan's don't actually have principles at all, beyond "my tribe".

It is, in fact, the complete lack of actual principles that is, so far as I can tell, required to be a Party member that means I can never really embrace either party truly.

You, for example, are completely lacking in actual principles. I've never once seen you call out your own party for violating it's own principles.

I do. I called out Arik Sharon for giving away Gaza, Mitt Romney for being just another democrat, Bibi Netanyahu for not expelling all the arabs, George W Bush for not fixing the mexican wall, George H Bush for raising taxes, Ronaldus Magnus Reaganus for having an anti-semite like James Baker in his administration, etc.