Stolen Valor: The Megathread

[Barrister]

Is lying on an affadavit (sp?) considered perjury?

Yes.  Though proving perjury is awfully tough.

[The Brain]

I'd guess the producers of the TV programme might have the best, biggest claim against him; I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't clauses in the contract/s he signed that ask him to affirm his past as attested by him is real.

Cause TV isn't about smoke and mirrors. At all.

[Valmy]

I don't know;  I'd think he meant he'd been in something like the WWII French Marquis.  Well, if he was old and French, but you get the idea.

Well yeah, context is important.  These days maybe he was a volunteer to defend the Assyrians from ISIS.

[mongers]

I'd guess the producers of the TV programme might have the best, biggest claim against him; I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't clauses in the contract/s he signed that ask him to affirm his past as attested by him is real.

Cause TV isn't about smoke and mirrors. At all.

Financial loss is very real to any company.

[dps]

I'd guess the producers of the TV programme might have the best, biggest claim against him; I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't clauses in the contract/s he signed that ask him to affirm his past as attested by him is real.

Cause TV isn't about smoke and mirrors. At all.

Financial loss is very real to any company.

It'd be hard to prove damages, though.  I don't know what the ratings are for the show, but it would be almost impossible to prove that they would have been different depending on how accurately his stories about his service are.  Even if the ratings go down now, and they cancel it, well, shows decline in the ratings and get cancelled all the time.

[Berkut]

Any way you slice it the guy is a Grade-A douchebag.

[celedhring]

To me a combat veteran is somebody who's participated in an armed conflict serving on an organized military body; either a government army or a mercenary outfit. Dunno if Teti's "contractor work" qualifies as the latter.

That said, the screenie that somebody posted with his resume is written in that assholish way of being probably truthful, but obviously misleading.

[mongers]

My question is, can a civilian be a combat veteran?
I have never met anybody that claimed to a "civilian combat veteran".
But then, I have always been surrounded by people that have served.

You guys are the only civilians that I speak with, so do you see a civilian contrator as a combat veteran, or is the term reserved especificly for people serving their country?

I think they'd be a mercenary, if part of some organised military-like body, otherwise couldn't you describe a common or garden gunman/thug as a 'civilian combat veteran'.

[mongers]

I'd guess the producers of the TV programme might have the best, biggest claim against him; I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't clauses in the contract/s he signed that ask him to affirm his past as attested by him is real.

Cause TV isn't about smoke and mirrors. At all.

Financial loss is very real to any company.

It'd be hard to prove damages, though.  I don't know what the ratings are for the show, but it would be almost impossible to prove that they would have been different depending on how accurately his stories about his service are.  Even if the ratings go down now, and they cancel it, well, shows decline in the ratings and get cancelled all the time.

Well Lance Armstrong is getting his ass handed to him for lying and cheating, and those doing the damage are sponsor companies, insurers etc.

[derspiess]

Cause TV isn't about smoke and mirrors. At all.

Do NOT tell me the show "Mountain Monsters" isn't 100% real.  Because it is

[Martinus]

Do we need a "Stolen Valor" megathread?

[The Minsky Moment]

Even if he could spin this as a truthful statement, it is still told in such a way as to give a false impression, so yes it is a fucking lie from a normal person point of view.  From a soulless law talking point of view?  Not sure.

As a soulless law talker, I would point out that the SVA is a criminal statute.  And there is a rule that criminal laws are to be interpreted strictly.  For very soulful reasons.

[Razgovory]

Do we need a "Stolen Valor" megathread?

Maybe we should just call it the "Siege Spazs out megathread".

[Siege]

Oh man, what happened with the Stolen Valor thread?

[grumbler]

If you say "I am a special forces operator combat veteran", and the SF stint was not in combat, and his deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan were as a civilian, then you are fuckin lying. Do you agree with me?

Oh, the guy appears to be a lying scumbag on top of being a reality TV scumbag.  I hope he loses his job and the entire network that broadcasts shit like his show goes belly-up.

That still doesn't mean he's in violation of the SVA.