Making better humans, or rather, making less-bad ones

[garbon]

I wonder if homosexuality would be considered an undesirable element as homosexuals are on average more likely to be depressed and suffer STDs.

We've already had this conversation before. For both, it is hard to parse out what is intrinsic to homosexuality itself and what stems from societal pressures placed on homosexuals.

Why the factors exist are irrelevant.  What is relevant is simply that they are undesirable factors.  Besides, much easier to do a medical procedure then to force every person to like gays better or make gays less slutty.  I had previously suggested that if it homosexuality acquired prenatally, (it's unlikely to be genetic and likely to be hormonal), and this condition could be altered in the womb, that homosexuality would all but disappear, not out of hate but simply from parents wanting children to be like them.  I imagine that within a hundred years gay rights will be irrelevant.

Yeah and this conversation is going along just like it did last time, where you fall into the same lines of what is the expedient path.

I'm out.

[Eddie Teach]

Most parents would probably opt for bisexuality, doubling one's chances of finding domestic splendor.

Nah. Altruism is an evolutionary dead end.

[Jacob]

If you can't even figure out how to manage your own life, you sure as fuck shouldn't be making plans about how to run the species. So yeah, take your eugenics and shove 'em.

[Ed Anger]

Harsh toke

[Tamas]

If you can't even figure out how to manage your own life, you sure as fuck shouldn't be making plans about how to run the species. So yeah, take your eugenics and shove 'em.

[Siege]

Don't forget, I was the first one to mention the Technological Singularity here in Languish.
Give me a high five if you have seen Transcendance with Johnny Depp, or Automata with Antonio Banderas.
Also, Her with Natalia Romanov or The Machine with...some British people.

[Ideologue]

If you can't even figure out how to manage your own life, you sure as fuck shouldn't be making plans about how to run the species. So yeah, take your eugenics and shove 'em.

Right.  I also believe in a progressive income tax.  Therefore, since I hold the proposition, progressive income tax is stupid etc.

[Ed Anger]

Ide: history's greatest monster

[Ideologue]

I'm not.  I'm really angry at Jake for ignoring the very first thing I said (and probably failing to read any of it) and thereby being a pompous, disingenuous shit.  I want to say mean(er) things back, but I won't.

But since he brought it up: if I'm such a big joke, why should I have been born, Jake?  If I can't manage my life, and you're right, why should I have been given existence when another combination would have been happier?  You don't have an answer, other than platitudes.

Sorry for the negativity.

[garbon]

Eeyore mode, activate!

[Ideologue]

See, and depression is also stigmatized by society.

[Neil]

If you can't even figure out how to manage your own life, you sure as fuck shouldn't be making plans about how to run the species. So yeah, take your eugenics and shove 'em.

Where do you get the idea that Ide can't manage his life from?  Because he doesn't meet your standards of success?  Because he has to struggle and scrape to get by?

Fuck you, you arbitrary cunt.  Where you get of judging some kid trapped in one of the worst places in the western world, I don't know. 

[Eddie Teach]

Fuck you, you arbitrary cunt.  Where you get of judging some kid trapped in one of the worst places in the western world, I don't know.

He has as much or more right to judge Ide as you do to judge South Carolina. At least he knows Ide.

[Ideologue]

SC does kinda suck, tho.

Anyway, in fairness, many of those reports come from me.   I don't manage my life very well except in the sense I've stayed out of jail and have mostly been able to afford my keep.

However, I've been trying to figure out why Jacob gets bent out of shape about, like, practically every idea I've had in the last several years, even though we share many of the same general goals for society.  I think it's because Jake is a for-real liberal humanist, which is nice and not really evil or anything, but it is in contrast to what I stand for, which is an significantly less liberal leftism that recognizes (or, at least, supposes) a general badness in humanity that needs to be either countered or improved in order for society to really get well.  I'm a splitter, Jacob can sometimes come off as offering nothing but platitudes in the face of terrible and ongoing harms, though I know he doesn't mean to and he has a good heart, like most everybody here.

I think he also fears that I'll go, like, full Nazi or something.  I appreciate that he has concern for my soul, but it's not necessary.

[CountDeMoney]

He's Scandi-Canuck, man.  He's twice the wattage of your usual Balls of Light.