Jesus H. LeMay Christ: USAF restricts F16s from engaging modern opponents

[Razgovory]

 

[Viking]

Oh, come on you people, how the hell is the F-22 or the F-35 gonna get funding if the Chair Force admits the F-16s can match most of what the russians have in everything except perhaps acceleration and turning speed.

[Siege]

I blame it on the Dalai 0bama.

[chipwich]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

[Admiral Yi]

By dogfight do you mean cannons and machine guns, or just air to air combat?

Either way, probably the Korean War.

[Viking]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

6-Day and Vietnam wars perhaps. Though The Iran-Iraq war, Falklands war, The 1971 Bangladesh War, The 1982 Invasion of Lebanon, The Yom Kippur War (the reason why Mubakarak, the Air Force Chief, got to be vice president) all had non-trivial contested air warfare.

[celedhring]

Didn't Iran's handful of F-14s face MiG-23s and SU-20/22s during the Iran-Iraq war? That could've been the closest match in recent memory.

[The Brain]

What about some of the wars in Africa? Maybe there's been some case of air combat between the old beat up pieces of shit they fly there?

[celedhring]

What about some of the wars in Africa? Maybe there's been some case of air combat between the old beat up pieces of shit they fly there?

I'm sure that in some of the conflicts alluded by Viking one could find examples of legacy planes fighting same-generation ones, too. Like maybe Phantom IIs going toe-to-toe against Mig-21s in Iran.

[jimmy olsen]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

6-Day and Vietnam wars perhaps. Though The Iran-Iraq war, Falklands war, The 1971 Bangladesh War, The 1982 Invasion of Lebanon, The Yom Kippur War (the reason why Mubakarak, the Air Force Chief, got to be vice president) all had non-trivial contested air warfare.

Probably the biggest ones on the list. 

[Razgovory]

Well there was that last Ecuador-Peru thing in the 1990's.

[Viking]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

6-Day and Vietnam wars perhaps. Though The Iran-Iraq war, Falklands war, The 1971 Bangladesh War, The 1982 Invasion of Lebanon, The Yom Kippur War (the reason why Mubakarak, the Air Force Chief, got to be vice president) all had non-trivial contested air warfare.

Probably the biggest ones on the list.

6 Day War - 500 planes destroyed total
Vietnam War - US lost 2500 planes on it's own in combat and accidents.
Iran-Iraq - Iraq lost at least 200 planes, Iran probably much more than that, over 300 air to air engangements with both sides getting actual gods honest aces.
Falklands War - 135 aircraft destroyed total
Bangladesh - Based on each side own claims 90 in total (based on the other side's claims 215)
Lebanon War - 90 aircraft (almost all syrian) and according to wiki "This was the largest aerial combat battle of the jet age with over 150 fighters from both sides engaged."
Yom Kippur War - 350-900 aircraft destroyed (more likely to be lowed due to arab fantastical claims)

So, the Bangladesh war vies to be the smallest air war on the list competing only wiht the falklands where the brits only had 42 harriers and lebanon where israel resolutely refused to let any of it's aircraft get shot down in air combat. The Bangladesh war is the only wan without any significant air combat since the pakistani air force was pretty much destroyed immediately and hardly compares to the 6 day war (the only equivalent situation). Vietnam on it's own dwarfs all the other wars put together.

[Ed Anger]

I'm glad somebody got the joke. 

[Siege]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

1973 Yom Kippur War
507 arab aircraft destroyed to 114 Israeli.

[Brazen]

How long has it been since the last dogfight between technologically matched planes?

Balkans? That was MiG-29s versus F-15s and F-16s.