Soldier shot at National War Memorial in Ottawa

[viper37]

I wasn't sure about CdM, but I would be willing to bet good money on Berkut. It was still at Paradox.

IIRC, there as one thread where this surfaced, nuking Mecca, and it wasn't Berkut, nor anyone from Languish.  I just can't remember the name of the dude, but I think he was Scottish.  Or British (and it wasn't Top Cat).  And maybe one or two others.

[Berkut]

I am waiting for a check from Marty - what is "good money" for a Polish lawyer?

[lustindarkness]

...from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

[Ed Anger]

25 cents. Or 5 Reichmarks.

[Jacob]

I wasn't sure about CdM, but I would be willing to bet good money on Berkut. It was still at Paradox.

IIRC, there as one thread where this surfaced, nuking Mecca, and it wasn't Berkut, nor anyone from Languish.  I just can't remember the name of the dude, but I think he was Scottish.  Or British (and it wasn't Top Cat).  And maybe one or two others.

One of the more vehement ones was Sean89 (or Sean[someothernumber]). He had an Irish EU avatar, but was from NYC IIRC.

[Josephus]

I am waiting for a check from Marty - what is "good money" for a Polish lawyer?

Couple brooding chickens

[Josephus]

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/28/distinction_between_terrorist_or_murderer_label_is_important_tim_harper.html

Star Columnist asks the same question I posed earlier.

Languish Journalism cabal is as good as Languish lawyer cabal

[crazy canuck]

Languish Journalism cabal is as good as Languish lawyer cabal

[Malthus]

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/28/distinction_between_terrorist_or_murderer_label_is_important_tim_harper.html

Star Columnist asks the same question I posed earlier.

Languish Journalism cabal is as good as Languish lawyer cabal

Fair, but I disagree with the thesis.

But if we were to characterize him and the man who killed Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent as mentally ill murderers, a government would not have licence to sharpen its rhetoric and move intrusively into the realm of civil liberties.

Who forms the larger group in our society:

(a) Terrorism sympathizers; or

(b) The mentally ill?

To my mind, there is just as much scope for potentially intruding on civil liberties if this is characterized as a "mentally ill problem". Maybe more. Imagine the RCMP combing through your medical records, or having to submit to a government "mental health clearance" for obtaining routine licences and passports. 

[crazy canuck]

On the other hand, if the emphasis is put on mental illness perhaps more resources will be provided to help people with mental illness.

[Grallon]

The contortions made in Canada in order to avoid naming the elephant in the room are almost comical.   




G.

[crazy canuck]

The contortions made in Canada in order to avoid naming the elephant in the room are almost comical.   




G.

If you read the thread carefully you will see we have indeed dealt with you.

[Jacob]

The contortions made in Canada in order to avoid naming the elephant in the room are almost comical.   




G.

Elephant, I name thee "Grallon" and thy traits are hysteria and xenophobia.

[Malthus]

On the other hand, if the emphasis is put on mental illness perhaps more resources will be provided to help people with mental illness.

True - but that could very easily go hand-in-hand with the stated concern (adverse impact on civil liberties).

Quite aside from this scenario, I've long been of the opinion that how mental illness is handled in this country is a problem - our policies have, historically, swung between extremes: involuntary committal being easy on the one hand, to near impossible on the other, with funding low for treatment and that difficult to get. Or at least, so it was last time I looked into it.

Anecdotally, if you have to deal with a mentally ill person, you will apparently get precious little support from the authorities - I remember some examples of roommate concerns in which the response of the authorities was almost comical in its ineffectuality (the problem was "solved" in both cases with the people I knew moving out and leaving it behind them, presumably for the landlord to deal with). I can only imagine what it was like to *be* that mentally ill person, or their families.

[Jacob]

When I moved to Canada in '89 there were basically no visibly homeless people in Ottawa. A few years later, there was a significant change to how the programs on mental illness. Money were saved, and things like housing and in-patient treatment was drastically cut in favour of allegedly more efficient and humane out-patient treatment combined with a reliance on the existing social safety network.

Pretty much simultaneously with that, homeless people started appearing in the streets and they've been a regular feature of Canadian urban life since then in my observation.