Soldier shot at National War Memorial in Ottawa

[Razgovory]

What kind of solutions did you have in mind?

Convincing someone to nail a list of 95 these on the door of the Kabah.

Well Valmy just said he would do it, so on the the next problem, eh?

Well, I'm glad we sorted this out.  Now we don't have to go through with Grallon's genocide plan.

[CountDeMoney]

Islam is just the latest flavor to grasp for those who feel compelled to commit violence in their sense of being wronged, slighted or otherwise disenfranchised at the outskirts of society.  40 years ago, it was left-wing movements that were in vogue.

Being batshit insane Having substantial mental health issues has a lot to do with it, though.

[garbon]

What kind of solutions did you have in mind?

Convincing someone to nail a list of 95 these on the door of the Kabah.

Well Valmy just said he would do it, so on the the next problem, eh?

Well, I'm glad we sorted this out.  Now we don't have to go through with Grallon's genocide plan.

[Jacob]

I should not have included Martinus and Viking's names, as we were talking about Canadians calling for demonizing Muslims.

So, yes?

No, not "yes", not "no", but "I don't really care what Marty and Vike says about Muslims at this time."

[Razgovory]

If you asked people 40 years ago if there was a class of civilizations they would probably say yes.  Between the freedom-loving individualist West and the collectivist Asiatic hordes in the East.  In 40 years it you will likely get a completely different answer.  Perhaps the enemy will be Hindu hyper-nationalist or Chinese Anarcho-Capitalists.

[Valmy]

Well, I'm glad we sorted this out.  Now we don't have to go through with Grallon's genocide plan.

I don't know.  There was some genocidal activity going on last time somebody nailed 95 theses on doors.

[Valmy]

If you asked people 40 years ago if there was a class of civilizations they would probably say yes.  Between the freedom-loving individualist West and the collectivist Asiatic hordes in the East.  In 40 years it you will likely get a completely different answer.  Perhaps the enemy will be Hindu hyper-nationalist or Chinese Anarcho-Capitalists.

It is between internet trolls and the rest of us.

[Josephus]

... and yeah, we're in agreement on security theatre, signing away civil liberties, and the response to lone attacker types.

I don't think that taking specific steps to improve security at Parliament should be considered "security theatre".  Security there seems bizarrely arcane - why are there separate House of Commons and Senate security forces?  Why are there not better controls at the main entrance?  I mentioned before that my local courthouse has better "perimeter security" than Parliament appears to have.

No argument there. But I think the PM has a few more things than just improving security at Parliament in mind.

[Malthus]

Well, I'm glad we sorted this out.  Now we don't have to go through with Grallon's genocide plan.

I don't know.  There was some genocidal activity going on last time somebody nailed 95 theses on doors.

The problem was a slight error in translation: not "theses", but "feces".

[CountDeMoney]

The problem was a slight error in translation: not "theses", but "feces".

Save it, Jew.  Nobody's talking shit about your blood matzohs. 

[Martinus]

If you asked people 40 years ago if there was a class of civilizations they would probably say yes.  Between the freedom-loving individualist West and the collectivist Asiatic hordes in the East.  In 40 years it you will likely get a completely different answer.  Perhaps the enemy will be Hindu hyper-nationalist or Chinese Anarcho-Capitalists.

It is between internet trolls and the rest of us.

We prefer the less loaded term "bridge-kin", thank you very much.

[Martinus]

I should not have included Martinus and Viking's names, as we were talking about Canadians calling for demonizing Muslims.

So, yes?

No, not "yes", not "no", but "I don't really care what Marty and Vike says about Muslims at this time."

So first you attack us and then, when you get called on it, you refuse to engage? Classy.

[Jacob]

So first you attack us and then, when you get called on it, you refuse to engage? Classy.

Like I said. It was a mistake.

[Barrister]

If you asked people 40 years ago if there was a class of civilizations they would probably say yes.  Between the freedom-loving individualist West and the collectivist Asiatic hordes in the East.  In 40 years it you will likely get a completely different answer.  Perhaps the enemy will be Hindu hyper-nationalist or Chinese Anarcho-Capitalists.

It is between internet trolls and the rest of us.

We prefer the less loaded term "bridge-kin", thank you very much.

Haven't heard that one before.

[Sheilbh]

Yi, what argument are advancing exactly?  "The problem lies in the nature of Islam therefor... What?"

...it's OK to talk about the problems of Islam and possible solutions.

But that's obvious too surely

Interesting debate from the Canadians too, I'm glad you seem to be taking a measured response. I recently watched an interview with a Minister from the 70s who said back then they would never recall Parliament or anything like that in response to an IRA attack because it would politically dignify them. I think that's maybe a bit extreme, but I do feel we've gone too far the other way.

It is weird though. He clearly wanted to be a terrorist and it's clearly political but, like another recent attack (can't remember which) it feels almost more like a school shooter/spree killer kind of situation.