Canadian Language Education Questions

[Jacob]

...these conceited mules.

Excellent turn of phrase

[Grey Fox]

So in your crazy worldview, saying something is not polite is equivalent to a desire to regulate something, kind of like how not being able to offer French equally at all times is the same as it being English 100% of the time?

I agree that there really isn't anything more for you to say - you should go back to BERKUT IS RACIST! It was a much more coherent position that this.

You definitely are an imbecile.

Viper do stop allowing yourself to be dragged down to his level - it's unsightly!  I cannot for the life of me understand what you're trying to accomplish by arguing with these conceited mules.



G.

Viper likes to argue and our language issue brings out the best in him.

[Grey Fox]

Are you new here? Have you not interacted with Viper before?

  You are one of the reasons I am pretty cool with French Canada doing pretty much what they think they should do.  I have a sneaking suspicion that you are more representative than M. Incomprehensible and M. Raging Asshole.

Thanks, I think. 

[crazy canuck]

The fact that French immersion classes are heavily oversubscribed in this Province is in the news again. 

[viper37]

The fact that French immersion classes are heavily oversubscribed in this Province is in the news again. 

because of inadequate public funding resulting in cuts to public education services.

[viper37]

I'd think it should be up to the workplace as long as whatever was decided, wasn't decided out of discriminatory reasons.

It's not like bilinguism is forbidden.  But asking for bilinguism everywhere is discriminatory.  Of course, if the majority of us would be bilingual, it wouldn't be a problem, but we're not there yet.

But having a workspace in your own language is nice.  If I'm to move in the US, I'll expect to work in english.  I doubt Berkut's employer is forcing the employees to use French exlusively from lower management and up.  Yet it was the norm in Quebec, before language laws, that any management position, from foreman and up, would be in english for most of the bigger corporations.

In these situations, you have a vicious circle.  People are unable to get a decent job if they don't speak english perfectly and they are unable to pursue higher education to learn english & the required skills if they are unable to get a decent job.  You end up with a lower working class significantly poorer than the foreign cultural elite and you severly restrict class mobility.

[Jacob]

The fact that French immersion classes are heavily oversubscribed in this Province is in the news again. 

because of inadequate public funding resulting in cuts to public education services.

I'm surprised to hear you make a Teachers' Union argument like that.

[crazy canuck]

The fact that French immersion classes are heavily oversubscribed in this Province is in the news again. 

because of inadequate public funding resulting in cuts to public education services.

Rather it is because of a lack of qualified french teachers.  At a time when enrolment in the public school system is shrinking (mainly because of demographics) enrolment in french immersion has increased by 14%.  The system just cant keep up with the demand.

[Grey Fox]

All the Chinese kids are signing up to become government employees?

[Berkut]

I'd think it should be up to the workplace as long as whatever was decided, wasn't decided out of discriminatory reasons.

It's not like bilinguism is forbidden.  But asking for bilinguism everywhere is discriminatory. 

Does that include insisting that, say, all officers in the Canadian military be bilingual, rather than just speaking English?

Or insisting that all federal employees be bilingual?

Or is it only discriminatory to ask French speakers to be bilingual, but is actually discriminatory to NOT ask English speakers to be bilingual in those positions?

[Grallon]

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Trying to stir shit again you bovine oaf? 



G.

[garbon]

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Trying to stir shit again you bovine oaf? 



G.

Actually that'd be viper who responded to a comment I made several weeks ago.

[Eddie Teach]

Or CC for bumping the thread.

[crazy canuck]

Or CC for bumping the thread.

Why do you always blame me 

[viper37]

Does that include insisting that, say, all officers in the Canadian military be bilingual, rather than just speaking English?

Where do you get that?

Or insisting that all federal employees be bilingual?

Where do you get that?

Or is it only discriminatory to ask French speakers to be bilingual, but is actually discriminatory to NOT ask English speakers to be bilingual in those positions?

Where do you get that?