The Martinus Rehabilitation Poll

[FunkMonk]

Sure.

[grumbler]

of course. wasn't the ban over a single private message? iirc, it contained a threat, but posters have threatened people on the open board before without repercussion.

The threat was just the final straw.  The man has some serious issues, and was tempbanned repeatedly before the final fatal plunge.

[LaCroix]

The threat was just the final straw.  The man has some serious issues, and was tempbanned repeatedly before the final fatal plunge.

well, i know he tended to react with hostility, and he insulted posters. even if he was the most volatile poster, i don't recall too many posts that were grossly out of line. general dislike for him coupled with the threat seemed to be the cause, but if that was the case then it seems a little overreactive given languish's history. maybe he was a lot worse in tbr, though

[Legbiter]

The man had massive, drunken meltdowns twice a week for years. The fact he lasted as long as he did was that nobody took him very seriously shall we say and he had to really exert himself to be kicked out. Sure, with the passage of time his antics take on a tinge of nostalgia but if he's the same loser as he was he'll just go back to being the ragey bitch that he was in the end. 

[grumbler]

well, i know he tended to react with hostility, and he insulted posters. even if he was the most volatile poster, i don't recall too many posts that were grossly out of line. general dislike for him coupled with the threat seemed to be the cause, but if that was the case then it seems a little overreactive given languish's history. maybe he was a lot worse in tbr, though

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.  Are you arguing that all of the temp-bans and the permaban were an over-reaction, or just the temp-bans, or just the perma-ban?

I'm not sure that "I don't recall the behavior that got him banned so many times" constitutes very persuasive evidence for an argument that he was a victim of over-reaction.

Mind, I am not arguing against his reinstatement.  I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

[LaCroix]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

[DGuller]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

It wasn't a threat, it was encouraging a poster to commit suicide.

[mongers]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

It wasn't a threat, it was encouraging a poster to commit suicide.

Hmm. that's rather despicable behavior, what you'd expect from a chicken-shit bully.

[LaCroix]

ah, i forgot about that. raz never took martinus seriously, though.

a threat v. encouraging someone to commit suicide. i'm not sure if one is worse than the other. 

[Legbiter]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

It wasn't a threat, it was encouraging a poster to commit suicide.

Hmm. that's rather despicable behavior, what you'd expect from a chicken-shit bully.

He'd still not have gotten banned if it could have been shrugged away as drunkenness and had it not come at the end of a long, long, LONG psychodrama.

Hell, at this stage in the game Languish is nothing if not tolerant of it's members...quirks shall we say. 

[Razgovory]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

It wasn't a threat, it was encouraging a poster to commit suicide.

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9933.0.html

[grumbler]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

Okay.  Looking back at the threads about it, there was more opposition to banning him than I remembered, so I understand your position better, now.

[alfred russel]

I am just wondering what argument you are trying to make, because the apparent argument doesn't seem to make sense.

i was just curious as to why he was banned, if there was another reason other than what i saw of his posts + the threat. legbiter provided a persuasive perspective, though.

It wasn't a threat, it was encouraging a poster to commit suicide.

Hmm. that's rather despicable behavior, what you'd expect from a chicken-shit bully.

Lets not be so judgmental. Encouraging people to try new things is generally a good thing to do.

I admit that encouraging people to try suicide usually isn't seen positively. But maybe martinus was trying to be nice, and seeing how that is new to him, the results came out a bit awkwardly.

[LaCroix]

 

[CountDeMoney]

of course. wasn't the ban over a single private message? iirc, it contained a threat, but posters have threatened people on the open board before without repercussion.

Now I've wished all sorts of death on posters over the years:  told Timmay to die out in traffic, among other methods;  told Mono I can't wait untilwe glass him with US nuclear weapons in the Limited Nuclear Exchange of 2028;  told derspiess not to fuck it up when he accidentally shoots himself in the head;  and pretty much told all of you to disappear collectively in a Malaysian airliner. 

But I always drew the line at suicide.  That's just in bad taste.   

edit:  maybe I told Lettow to kill himself.  I dunno, kid's hardheaded.