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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Crazy_Ivan80

And rumors that an invasion of Taiwan is a matter of months...

Josquius

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 08, 2025, 09:31:40 AMAnd rumors that an invasion of Taiwan is a matter of months...

 Better get that new computer ASAP.
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viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 08, 2025, 09:21:57 AMChinese nationals now fighting for Russia.
That's not exactly breaking.  There have been Chinese mercenaries posting their experiences on social media for months now. 
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

crazy canuck

Trump repeats the lie that Ukraine started the war:

QuoteYou don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.

Norgy

To be fair, Norway gave Ukraine missiles and tanks. :unsure:

I think Trump has learnt a lot from Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin.

"Hitler asked nicely to have Gdansk back"
"Uhuh"

That's classy journalism right there.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2025, 07:22:52 AMTrump repeats the lie that Ukraine started the war:

QuoteYou don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.

A lie told a thousand times... etc.
From the same one who coined the useful idiot concept.  :P

Josquius

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2025, 07:22:52 AMTrump repeats the lie that Ukraine started the war:

QuoteYou don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.

That's right. You don't.
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Interesting he meant it a different way to how it should logically be taken.
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Zanza

Reports suggesting that the United States might acknowledge Russian annexation of Crimea. Not obvious what the great deal maker gets in return.

viper37

Quote from: Zanza on April 19, 2025, 08:35:04 AMReports suggesting that the United States might acknowledge Russian annexation of Crimea. Not obvious what the great deal maker gets in return.
Potash, oil, natural gas, minerals, I suppose.  If, one day, Russia can manage to restart its production.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Zanza

He could get that for money, no need to accept the annexation of Crimea.

Crazy_Ivan80

Trump's new book will be called: "The Art of Surrendering".
It'll feature nothing but pictures of the orange man dropping his pants, bending over and taking it up the ass.

viper37

Quote from: Zanza on April 19, 2025, 09:24:12 AMHe could get that for money, no need to accept the annexation of Crimea.
He could get all of what Greenland has to offer for money too, without threat of annexation.  Same for Canada, within reason.  

He could also have not have ratified the Trans Pacific Partnership instead of ranting against it, or instruct his team to make small changes to the treaty and have it ratified, contributing to China isolation.  He could also have ratified to industrial trade agreement with Europe.  He could also have not pulled out of the nuclear treaty with Iran.

That's what a reasonable man like Obama might have done.  Or Biden.

The guys that goes on Twitter rants at 2:00am to crash the markets? Nah.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Zanza

#19078
So apparently the "US peace plan" is to give Russia everything it wants (territory, no NATO for Ukraine) and Ukraine gets a ceasefire in return. Or else the United States withdraws from the talks. Not sure if that's a big loss at this point.

Probably just to claim Ukraine "does not want peace" to give cover for disengagement that is driven by the convictions of Trump and his ilk.

viper37

Quote from: Zanza on April 23, 2025, 03:29:10 AMSo apparently the "US peace plan" is to give Russia everything it wants (territory, no NATO for Ukraine) and Ukraine gets a ceasefire in return. Or else the United States withdraws from the talks. Not sure if that's a big loss at this point.

Probably just to claim Ukraine "does not want peace" to give cover for disengagement that is driven by the convictions of Trump and his ilk.
Trump's "final offer" for peace requires Ukraine to accept Russian occupation


See for yourselves.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.