Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Jacob]

Do you not remember Churchill's stateman-like poll put to the British people on the 17th May 1940, "BEF - Should They Stay Or Should They Go?"

 

[viper37]

There's still a debate about the reality of an F-35 kill switch.
However, what's real, is that US traditional allies are now thinking twice about buying F-35 and other military hardware from the US after Trump's backstabbing of Ukraine:
https://eutoday.net/germany-concerned-over-f-35-kill-switch/


I feel trapped.  Nothing is safe.  Even ethical portfolios aren't safe from the onslaught.  World diversification does not really help.  At least, I sold all my crypto just before Trump was sworn in and cashed my gains.  I see the despair of people who lost huge amounts of money, some who ask for the suicide hotline because they believed in the Republican hype. So sad

[grumbler]

The rumors of an F-35 "kill switch" still seem to be just rumors, with no one with any knowledge actually saying that such a thing could even exist, but the issue is moot.  Just owning F-35s makes a country vulnerable not just to Trump, but to any similar moron elected by US halfwits in the next 20 or 30 years. Everyone needs to cancel their F-35 orders not because the Trump administration is unreliable, but because the American electorate is unreliable.

[Zanza]

Germany mainly wants to buy the F-35 to deliver American nuclear weapons as part of NATO. It is not clear to me whether that use case is actually still relevant.

[Jacob]

Moscow hit by drone attack.

[Jacob]

30 day truce proposal agreed between Ukraine and the US. Now let's see if Russia is on board and, just as importantly, whether Trump torpedoes it immediately.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

30 day truce proposal agreed between Ukraine and the US. Now let's see if Russia is on board and, just as importantly, whether Trump torpedoes it immediately.

sounds like a trap any way you look at it

[Josquius]

Given Russia seemed to be making big gains in encircling the Ukrainians in Kursk the timing does seem terrible for them.
I expect Ukraine has agreed knowing this and catching them out.

[Richard Hakluyt]

According to this latest news from Poland shipments from the USA to help Ukraine are back :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/12/ukraine-war-live-updates-russia-ceasefire-putin-trump-zelenskyy-update

[The Minsky Moment]

Sounds like a trap any way you look at it

With Trump occupied running a DC Tesla dealership, it looks like the State Dept temporarily regained control of the Ukraine negotiations.  The proposal has the advantage of exposing and highlighting that up till now, Russia's "peace" negotiations have consisted of intensified violence on the battlefield.  Obvious of course but helpful because America stupid. A 30-day truce at this moment probably favors Ukraine, especially if accompanied by a resumption of aid.

It doesn't fix the ultimate problem however, which is that official US policy remains cramming down a bogus peace settlement that Ukraine can't possibly accept.

[Syt]

Trump also said he wants to label protestors at Tesla dealerships as domestic terrorists.

[Syt]

Apparently transcript from a talk between Yeltsin and Clinton in 1999.

[Legbiter]

According to this latest news from Poland shipments from the USA to help Ukraine are back :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/12/ukraine-war-live-updates-russia-ceasefire-putin-trump-zelenskyy-update

The resumption of US supply lines is the biggest win from these ceasefire negotiations. Now russia will endlessly quibble with the terms and the war will continue would be my guess. 

[celedhring]

I'm more pessimistic. Russia will come out with a counterproposal with some inadmissible concessions that the US will accept and then force upon the Ukrainians.

[Legbiter]

The US wants to freeze the conflict along current lines, normalize relations with russia and forget about the whole thing. Putin wants Ukraine to vacate all oblasts he has formally annexed and that the landlocked rump state that's left to disband it's government, military and all foreign alliances while he catches a breather. I think the Ukrainians would refuse any such request from the US, aid be damned.