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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2025, 08:24:47 PMNext time I leave the country I will work on my Canadian accent.
It's harder when you're from Texas than from New York, though.  :sleep:

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: viper37 on March 01, 2025, 09:52:27 PMRepublicans have caved in to the extremists of the movement for a while now.  At least since the 70s, under Nixon.

It's been a gradual shift.  The Tea Party and Maga didn't appear out of nowhere, suddenly, one day.  It's been a slow rising movement inside the Republican party that enabled it, thrived on it and let it grow.  That party should have been wiped out from Congress after the debacle of the Iraq war and the 2008 recession.  It only grew stronger.

History has been harsh on Germany (and Austria) for not resisting nazism enough when it began.  I'm seeing images of the protests right now, and there's nothing more but an handful of people protesting each time in a country of millions.

At most, there are angry townhall meetings in Republican States.  From people complaining that they are the ones being hurt, not the others.

I voted for Bush Sr., Wubya, and Jim Leach.  I might have voted for the Republican candidate for DC mayor once during the Marion Berry era. How did those those people enable Trump?

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2025, 09:12:02 PMI don't understand what you mean by enabled.

I feel more sympathy for Palestinians who don't support Hamas than I do for those who do.  I would like you to extend the same courtesy to me.

If it comes to war and Canada drops a bomb on me, I will not cry about the unfairness.

It is absolutely wrong to treat all Palestinians as Hamas, but absolutely right to treat all Americans as Republicans.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

You guys made your bed.

Jacob

I'm seeing some social media images of protests in the US. That counts in my eyes. Taking to the streets and protesting counts as resisting IMO.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Jacob on March 01, 2025, 04:22:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 01, 2025, 04:15:27 PMslow burn takeover of Beijing.

Of or by?

Are you suggesting Europe take over Beijing somehow? Or are you proposing the EU lets itself slowly be taken over by Beijing?
Yes. Europe should make alliance with East asia against Eurasia.
PDH!

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 02:36:25 AMYou guys made your bed.

Would you agree, then, that Gazans made their bed?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 12:37:41 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2025, 09:12:02 PMI don't understand what you mean by enabled.

I feel more sympathy for Palestinians who don't support Hamas than I do for those who do.  I would like you to extend the same courtesy to me.

If it comes to war and Canada drops a bomb on me, I will not cry about the unfairness.

It is absolutely wrong to treat all Palestinians as Hamas, but absolutely right to treat all Americans as Republicans.

At least you are now coming to see the argument that there is a distinction to be made in both cases.

fromtia

You Euros are really hating on the Americans right now. Keep in mind that while Trumps victory contained a lot for Dems to be alarmed by it was a modest victory. The Dems ran an utterly senile old man after lying about his condition for years and then switching to a wildly unpopular candidate who barely registered in the primary.
I also have a hunch that a lot of people voted for Trump 1 - you know, not much happened, no inflation, kind of a shit show , lots of comedy. I think they are horrified by Trump 2.
"Just be nice" - James Dalton, Roadhouse.

Richard Hakluyt

Yeah, I'm not in line to insult or blame individual Americans.... especially since most of the ones I know are horrified with Trump et al

Grey Fox

That doesn't free them of the responsibility. Trump is all Americans President.

Too bad, so sad. Fix your house because they will come for you too.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

fromtia

Quote from: Grey Fox linkquote author=Grey Fox link=msg=1470304 date=1740929119]
That doesn't free them of the responsibility. Trump is all Americans President.

Too bad, so sad. Fix your house because they will come for you too.




I've been tiling my house actually, its coming along nicely!

Seriously, I am horrified by whats happening - none of it is going in a good direction at all. It appears to be a sort if collapse of the American political class across the spectrum - a catastrophe.
"Just be nice" - James Dalton, Roadhouse.

viper37




Trump is bringing back classified documents to Mar-A-Lago.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: fromtia on Today at 10:37:41 AMSeriously, I am horrified by whats happening - none of it is going in a good direction at all. It appears to be a sort if collapse of the American political class across the spectrum - a catastrophe.
Republican politicians are scared of Trump's boys and their death threats.  Show them numbers make safety?  Show them they are not alone?
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Zanza

While the current US regime's hostility against Ukraine is really disappointing and will hurt considering the US support so far, Europe has both spent more to support Ukraine than the US and has the capabilities to support the ongoing war with Russia even without the US. That's what needs to be our focus now.