CdM is in love!

[grumbler]

No question that it is extremely stupid to stop in the left lane, and no question but what the woman is negligent to a degree, but the negligence of the motorcycle rider, particularly with his daughter on board, seems to me to be the greater.

And I disagree.  He was driving as anyone would drive under those conditions.

And I disagree with this.  He was a dead man riding if there was ANYTHING in the road, because he was travelling too fast to stop in the space he could see.  That may be the way anyone in Quebec may drive, but it isn't the way any sane person would drive.  Hell, he was still going well above the speed limit on impact (i.e. after braking)!

[Iormlund]

If someone is impaired by their prescribed drugs, then they ought not to be driving.

That's a very inconsiderate and intolerant perspective.

So is banning blind people from driving.

[The Brain]

Last month I had to hit the breaks in my neighborhood to avoid hitting a kid.  Goofy kid runs out in front of the car and I slam on the breaks.  Nearly gave me a heart attack.

The sad thing is, Raz, if you get into an accident through no fault of your own that results in serious injury or death, there's a good chance you are going to end up charged with DUI manslaughter due to the psychiatric meds you take.  Or charged with DUI if you end up in a single car accident and make the mistake of honestly answering police questions about what medication you take.  I've worked on several cases where people were charged solely on the basis of their prescribed medications, taken at prescribed dosages.

What does prescribed matter if it impairs your driving?

[derspiess]

Whether or not the motorcycle dude should have been going that fast, coming to a dead stop in a blind curve is just stupid. 

Anyway, had an oddly similar experience (though no fatalities) Saturday night driving home from a late dinner.  On a windy road some girl stopped her car to help a couple fawns off the road.  Stopped traffic both ways, and annoyed me a bit-- she could have just honked the horn to scare them off.

[Eddie Teach]

If someone is impaired by their prescribed drugs, then they ought not to be driving.

That's a very inconsiderate and intolerant perspective.

So is banning blind people from driving.

You engineers and your self-driving cars. 

[derspiess]

What does prescribed matter if it impairs your driving?

When it doesn't, maybe?  My emergency painkillers tell me not to drive after taking them and I don't.  But they don't impair my judgment one bit.

[The Brain]

Whether or not the motorcycle dude should have been going that fast, coming to a dead stop in a blind curve is just stupid. 

[Barrister]

If someone is impaired by their prescribed drugs, then they ought not to be driving.

That's a very inconsiderate and intolerant perspective.

That's me.

[The Brain]

What does prescribed matter if it impairs your driving?

When it doesn't, maybe?  My emergency painkillers tell me not to drive after taking them and I don't.  But they don't impair my judgment one bit.

Elaborate.

[derspiess]

What does prescribed matter if it impairs your driving?

When it doesn't, maybe?  My emergency painkillers tell me not to drive after taking them and I don't.  But they don't impair my judgment one bit.

Elaborate.

I don't notice any judgment impairment after taking them.

[The Brain]

What does prescribed matter if it impairs your driving?

When it doesn't, maybe?  My emergency painkillers tell me not to drive after taking them and I don't.  But they don't impair my judgment one bit.

Elaborate.

I don't notice any judgment impairment after taking them.

Is there a point in there trying to get out or should I give up hope?

[Iormlund]

You engineers and your self-driving cars. 

We just design stuff like that because it's great fun (if an engineer tells you he does it for the money he's lying to you - there are plenty of awfully boring yet profitable careers for someone with an engineering degree).

But it'll be insurance execs that'll bar real folk from driving in the not so distant future.

[crazy canuck]

No question that it is extremely stupid to stop in the left lane, and no question but what the woman is negligent to a degree, but the negligence of the motorcycle rider, particularly with his daughter on board, seems to me to be the greater.

And I disagree.  He was driving as anyone would drive under those conditions.

And I disagree with this.  He was a dead man riding if there was ANYTHING in the road, because he was travelling too fast to stop in the space he could see.  That may be the way anyone in Quebec may drive, but it isn't the way any sane person would drive.  Hell, he was still going well above the speed limit on impact (i.e. after braking)!

If the driver of the motorcycle couldnt see the parked vehicle because another vehicle blocked his view and after that other vehicle swerved to miss the parked vehicle the motocyclist wasnt able to react in time then I am not sure how the motorcycle driver could be said to have the greater blame.   Based on the information in this thread there isnt enough information to make judgments about blame.  Certainly the Court had more information than we do.

[Iormlund]

Yeah. Unless Canada operates its highways in a very inefficient fashion, you are supposed to keep enough distance with the vehicle in front of you, not an hypothetical vehicle stopped where it shouldn't and which you cannot see.

[derspiess]

Is there a point in there trying to get out or should I give up hope?

Dunno, man.