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Started by The Brain, June 22, 2014, 07:41:09 AM

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OK I normally don't do this, but I'm gonna do a Sweetass and start a thread inspired by Paradox OT.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/10916470/Canadian-woman-who-stopped-car-to-help-ducks-faces-life-in-jail-after-causing-fatal-crash.html


QuoteCanadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash

Emma Czornobaj sentenced over deaths of Andre Roy and 16-year-old daughter Jessie for parking car on busy road after seeing ducklings without their mother
 

By AP

10:47AM BST 21 Jun 2014


A Canadian woman who parked her car on a highway to help a group of ducklings on the side of the road has been found guilty of causing the deaths of a motorcyclist and his passenger daughter who slammed into her car.

Emma Czornobaj was convicted by a jury on Friday on two counts of criminal negligence causing death, a charge that carries a maximum life sentence, and two counts of dangerous driving causing death, which comes with a maximum of 14 years in jail.

The 25 year-old was charged in the deaths of Andre Roy, 50, and his daughter Jessie, 16.

She wiped away tears when the verdict was delivered to a packed courtroom in Montreal. Quebec Superior Court Justice Eliane Perreault said the 12-member jury voted unanimously.

Czornobaj was released until her pre-sentence hearing on August 8.


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Roy's motorcycle slammed into Czornobaj's car, which was stopped in the left lane of a provincial highway south of Montreal in 2010.

Czornobaj, a self-professed animal lover, told the court that she did not see the ducklings' mother anywhere and planned to capture them and take them home.

Defence lawyer Marc Labelle said his client was stunned by the jury's decision.

"The fact that she was involved in the accident in the first place was a hard experience for her," he said. "The fact that she had to go through a trial with a lot of publicity was tough and to be confirmed by 12 citizens, the jury, that the conduct was criminal is a hard blow."

Pauline Volikakis, whose husband and daughter were killed in the collision, briefly fought back tears when she left the courtroom.

"I don't wish misfortune on anyone," Volikakis said. "It's time that we go on. This will not bring [back] my loved ones."

Prosecutor Annie-Claude Chasse had a message for motorists.

"What we hope is that a clear message is sent to society that we do not stop on the highway for animals. It's not worth it."

According to Swedish rules the motorcycle guy was speeding (since he couldn't stop on the stretch of road he could see), but still...

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Life in prison for manslaughter? Seems excessive.
Quotecriminal negligence causing death, a charge that carries a maximum life sentence, and two counts of dangerous driving causing death, which comes with a maximum of 14 years in jail.
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grumbler

Wow.  That's all kinds of fucked up, if this really happened as described.  Yeah, she was a moron for stopping her car and thinking it was a good idea to kidnap some ducklings, but I'd argue that the guy was killed because he ran his motorcycle into a stationary object.  The death of the daughter is on the head of the guy who rammed his motorcycle into a stopped car (but, given that he couldn't stand trial, I don't think prosecution was in order).

However, this is in Canada (and Quebec, no less), so fucked-upedness should be expected, I suppose.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
Life in prison for manslaughter? Seems excessive.
Quotecriminal negligence causing death, a charge that carries a maximum life sentence, and two counts of dangerous driving causing death, which comes with a maximum of 14 years in jail.

I'll tell you what. You get the penalty reduced to a couple of weeks, and then send me your route to and from work.

Then every day after that I will leave my car stationary on that path just around curves while I look for ducklings to rescue.  :P
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 07:58:03 AM
Wow.  That's all kinds of fucked up, if this really happened as described.

Just a bit.

Quote"What we hope is that a clear message is sent to society that we do not stop on the highway for animals. It's not worth it."

Funny, usually the clear message sent to motorcyclists in driver's education is to watch the road for obstacles, debris and other vehicles.

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Seriously fucked up.  Negligently causing car accident can equal life in prison?  Are you fucking kidding me?

QuoteCzornobaj was released until her pre-sentence hearing on August 8.

Hope she has the guts to do what's good and necessary.
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Quote from: alfred russel on June 22, 2014, 08:07:55 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 22, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
Life in prison for manslaughter? Seems excessive.
Quotecriminal negligence causing death, a charge that carries a maximum life sentence, and two counts of dangerous driving causing death, which comes with a maximum of 14 years in jail.

I'll tell you what. You get the penalty reduced to a couple of weeks, and then send me your route to and from work.

Then every day after that I will leave my car stationary on that path just around curves while I look for ducklings to rescue.  :P

Sounds reasonable.  My car has these things called brakes.  Also a steering wheel.  Also it's a car and not a suicide machine.
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grumbler

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2014, 08:43:48 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 07:58:03 AM
Wow.  That's all kinds of fucked up, if this really happened as described.

Just a bit.

Quote"What we hope is that a clear message is sent to society that we do not stop on the highway for animals. It's not worth it."

Funny, usually the clear message sent to motorcyclists in driver's education is to watch the road for obstacles, debris and other vehicles.
And don't speed. The guy was doing about 75 mph in a 55 mph zone.
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Query: Why would a road with true blind curves have a 55mph speed limit, anyway?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 09:10:10 AM
And don't speed. The guy was doing about 75 mph in a 55 mph zone.

Too be fair to him, this was criminal negligence, so she specifically stopped the vehicle with the specific aim of killing him.  What with intent embedded in "criminal" and all.

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viper37

Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2014, 07:41:09 AM
OK I normally don't do this, but I'm gonna do a Sweetass and start a thread inspired by Paradox OT.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/10916470/Canadian-woman-who-stopped-car-to-help-ducks-faces-life-in-jail-after-causing-fatal-crash.html


QuoteCanadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash

Emma Czornobaj sentenced over deaths of Andre Roy and 16-year-old daughter Jessie for parking car on busy road after seeing ducklings without their mother
 

By AP

10:47AM BST 21 Jun 2014


A Canadian woman who parked her car on a highway to help a group of ducklings on the side of the road has been found guilty of causing the deaths of a motorcyclist and his passenger daughter who slammed into her car.

Emma Czornobaj was convicted by a jury on Friday on two counts of criminal negligence causing death, a charge that carries a maximum life sentence, and two counts of dangerous driving causing death, which comes with a maximum of 14 years in jail.

The 25 year-old was charged in the deaths of Andre Roy, 50, and his daughter Jessie, 16.

She wiped away tears when the verdict was delivered to a packed courtroom in Montreal. Quebec Superior Court Justice Eliane Perreault said the 12-member jury voted unanimously.

Czornobaj was released until her pre-sentence hearing on August 8.


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Roy's motorcycle slammed into Czornobaj's car, which was stopped in the left lane of a provincial highway south of Montreal in 2010.

Czornobaj, a self-professed animal lover, told the court that she did not see the ducklings' mother anywhere and planned to capture them and take them home.

Defence lawyer Marc Labelle said his client was stunned by the jury's decision.

"The fact that she was involved in the accident in the first place was a hard experience for her," he said. "The fact that she had to go through a trial with a lot of publicity was tough and to be confirmed by 12 citizens, the jury, that the conduct was criminal is a hard blow."

Pauline Volikakis, whose husband and daughter were killed in the collision, briefly fought back tears when she left the courtroom.

"I don't wish misfortune on anyone," Volikakis said. "It's time that we go on. This will not bring [back] my loved ones."

Prosecutor Annie-Claude Chasse had a message for motorists.

"What we hope is that a clear message is sent to society that we do not stop on the highway for animals. It's not worth it."

According to Swedish rules the motorcycle guy was speeding (since he couldn't stop on the stretch of road he could see), but still...

Animals are meant to serve man.



Technically, he wasn't speeding, he was below 119km/h and you receive no speeding tickets for that, even though the limit is 100km/h.

The women was dumb.  Stopping on the left side of the highway to let the ducks cross.  :wacko:
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viper37

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2014, 08:43:48 AM
Funny, usually the clear message sent to motorcyclists in driver's education is to watch the road for obstacles, debris and other vehicles.
it is highly unexpected for a car to be stopped on the left lane.  It is also illegal to stop on the left lane.
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viper37

Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 22, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2014, 09:10:10 AM
And don't speed. The guy was doing about 75 mph in a 55 mph zone.

Too be fair to him, this was criminal negligence, so she specifically stopped the vehicle with the specific aim of killing him.  What with intent embedded in "criminal" and all.
criminal negligence needs you committed an illegal act, not specifically out of malice.  Like driving under influence and killing someone.   Like speeding (real speeding) and killing someone.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.